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ROLL CALL

MINUTES

READ ORDINANCE BY AUDIO

AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA

CONSENT AGENDA

COMMISSIONER COORDINATOR REPORTS

WARRANTS: 1) GENERAL WARRANTS – MAY 19, 2023

BIDS: 1) APPROVE BID #B2300087, FACILITIES MASTER PLAN – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT

2) APPROVE BID #B2300105, JAIL ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT

3) APPROVE BID #B2300108, SHOOTING RANGE WATER TREATMENT – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT

4) PRESENT BID #B2300114, BACKUP GENERATORS FOR FLEET SERVICES, COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS, AND ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT

NEW BUSINESS: 1) CONSIDER TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF CR 36 BETWEEN CRS 15 AND 17

2) CONSIDER TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF CR 54 BETWEEN CRS 43 AND 45

3) CONSIDER ACCEPTANCE OF FILING OF SERVICE PLAN AND SET HEARING DATE FOR CONSIDERATION – FIRST FIVE YEARS EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT SERVICE DISTRICT

PLANNING: 1) FIRST READING OF CODE ORDINANCE #2023-06, IN THE MATTER OF REPEALING AND REENACTING WITH AMENDMENTS, CHAPTER 23 ZONING AND CHAPTER 29 BUILDING REGULATIONS, OF THE WELD COUNTY CODE (AGRICULTURAL BUILDINGS)

PUBLIC COMMENT

OK, alright go ahead and call over the Board of County Commissioners that the reflect all five county commissioners are present 00:00:04
then it's approval of minutes of May 8th, 2023 move to approve. 00:00:09
Second then moved by Commissioner Ross, second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries. Read code 00:00:14
Read ordinance by audio read code code Ordinance 2023-06 by audio read ordinance by audio. Second move by Commissioner James, 00:00:21
second by Commissioner Buck to read by audio. All in favor opposed motion carries. 00:00:27
Kindness. 00:00:36
OK, approval of consent agenda moved to approve consent agenda. 00:00:37
Tech and move like Mr. Ross, Second like Mr. James to approve the consent agenda. All in favor, Aye. Opposed Motion carries. 00:00:41
Commissioner, coordinator reports Commissioner James will start on that end today. I think professionally report personally, if 00:00:49
somebody yells heads, don't look that direction because there's a softball coming your way. 00:00:55
OK, and that nothing to report. You know, in your politics you have to explain a couple of black eyes, should it be apparent. 00:01:03
That's good. 00:01:12
I'm done, Commissioner. Puck. Nothing to report. All is well, OK, Mr. Ross. Projects on Two Rivers are going along. Great weather. 00:01:15
Had a little bit of delays, but it sounds like the team doing a good job of staying on schedule there. 00:01:22
Round about in the shore, up a little bit of the soil there it up 33 and 74, but they're working on that. 00:01:31
And uh. 00:01:40
We're at 90% planned on the roundabout at 13 and. 00:01:42
6 down here in the South part of the county. So things are progressing. Good deal, Lot of construction projects. 00:01:46
Commissioner saying nothing, no part to speak. 00:01:52
OK. I don't have anything either. So with that, we'll move on to warrants, #1 general warrants May 19th, 5/23. 00:01:55
Move to approve or second and like Mr. Ross, second like Mr. Buck to approve all in favor aye. Opposed motion carries bids number 00:02:01
one approved Bid B 23,087 facilities master plan facilities department. 00:02:08
Good morning, Carolyn Geiser, purchasing. 00:02:19
This bid was for Facilities Master Plan for Weld County I was. It was published as a request for proposal. The RFP identified the 00:02:25
following areas that would be evaluated Firm, Capability Consultant and key staff. 00:02:32
Experiences and Qualifications Project approach. 00:02:40
From availability and project schedule and costs. 00:02:44
The community narrowed the respondents to a short list of two. These two were asked to provide a best and final offer to be a FO 00:02:47
DLR group provided ABAFO of. 00:02:54
$968,000 and Ginsler provided a BAFO of. 00:03:00
$951,579 The results of the committee evaluation shown on an attachment a show Gensler as the overall best value for this 00:03:07
solicitation. Therefore, the Facilities department is recommending the award to Gensler in the amount of 951,579 thousand. 00:03:18
Questions. 00:03:32
Nope, it's here. I moved to approve. 00:03:33
2nd. 00:03:34
Then move on. Commissioner Ross second by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor Aye Opposed Motion carries #2 approve bid B 00:03:36
2300105 Jail Elevator Modernization Facilities Department. 00:03:41
As advertised, this bid is for the modernization of jail elevators CP08 Dash. 00:03:48
0029644 The low bidder was Peak Elevator LLC for $141,975.00 but did not meet the bid specifications feed out. 00:03:56
Peak Elevator LLC failed to include the elevator jacks, which are required to be replaced in the project specific. 00:04:08
Specific terms and conditions. 00:04:17
The second low bid was Centric Elevator Corporation in the amount of $179,546 and meets the exceed or exceeds specifications since 00:04:21
the first low bidder. 00:04:27
Did not meet the specifications, while county facilities recommends awarding the second low bidder centric Elevator Corporation in 00:04:34
the amount of $179,564. 00:04:40
Any questions? Question for 2nd. Just want to thank you for the specificity on the on the specifications. Thank you. Thank you. 00:04:47
Get proof. 00:04:56
So then move like Mr. Buck, second by Mr. Ross to approve all in favor Opposed Motion carries #3 approved Bid the 2300108 Shooting 00:04:57
Range Water Treatment Facilities Department. 00:05:02
As advertised, this bid is for a water treatment system for the Weld County shooting range. The bid was published as a request for 00:05:09
bid. 00:05:13
Only one vendor replied to the RFP. 00:05:17
The vendor was RK Water LLC. During the review process, it was determined that the equipment offered in the RFB different from 00:05:21
what was designed to move the equipment that was bid, will not fit into the space that is allocated for it. Therefore, Facilities 00:05:28
department is recommending that the rejection of the bid from RK Water LLC facilities where we bid the project once design 00:05:36
consultant has provided adequately sized location for all. 00:05:43
Water treatment equipment. 00:05:51
Any questions? 00:05:54
Motion to move to. 00:05:56
Deny the bid and go out for rebid on this. 00:05:59
Been moved by commissioner Ross, second by commissioner James. Reject the bid and go out for rebid. 00:06:04
Ohh future date. 00:06:09
Any further discussion all in favor opposed motion carries. 00:06:12
Thank you. 00:06:17
But can we still hold on, Sorry, we still have, I'm sorry, we have 1% there. Sorry about that. Number four present there would be 00:06:18
230-0114 backup generators for fleet services, community corrections and alternative programs, facilities department. 00:06:25
The purchasing department received two bids. We will. The bids have been sent to the facilities department for review. 00:06:32
We will be back on June 5th for approval. 00:06:40
That is a huge for those two. 00:06:45
Wow. Wow. OK, any further? Any any other questions? OK. 00:06:48
Thank you. Now that concludes bids. 00:06:56
Move on to new business #1, Considered temporary closure of County Road 36 between Cairo's 15 and 17. 00:06:58
Good morning Commissioners, Amy Machi, Public Works. Public Works is requesting this closure to begin on May 30th and go through 00:07:08
June 2nd. This is for replacing a drainage culvert. Water will be used for dust treatment on the one mile of gravel roadway within 00:07:14
the Detour Row. 00:07:20
OK, questions. 00:07:27
Move to approve second, then moved by Commissioner Brock, second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor opposed motion 00:07:29
carries #2. Consider temporary closure of County Road 54 between County Road 43 and 45. Public Works is requesting this closure to 00:07:36
begin on June 6th and go through June 9th. This is replacing your gation covert. 00:07:42
Umm. 00:07:49
There will be message boards in advance of this closure just due to the traffic volumes that use this section of roadway. 00:07:51
And my card will be used on the gravel roadway within the detour routes. Questions move to approve 2nd and you'd like to Mr. James 00:07:57
second by commissioner but to approve All in favor. Opposed. 00:08:03
Motion carries. Thank you, thank you, thank you #3. Consider acceptance of filing of Service plan and set hearing date for 00:08:10
consideration. First five years early childhood development service district. 00:08:16
Chairman, this is like I told you or give the board a heads up that. 00:08:22
We would be getting this. 00:08:27
We got it, and then I made some. 00:08:30
Suggested changes to the Service plan and also went to Boulder County. They made a few suggestions. 00:08:32
Went back and now it's being presented to both Weld County and Boulder County. 00:08:40
So this would be a district. 00:08:45
That is allowed pursuant to. 00:08:47
Some statutes that were enacted about two years ago. 00:08:51
Umm. 00:08:55
And it would be in both Weld County and Boulder County. 00:08:57
So what we've done with this resolution, what it does is it sets the date as June 19th. 00:09:01
And 9:00 AM for your hearing. Boulder County is going to be working on it the next day. I was sort of hoping that we could do this 00:09:08
on the 20. 00:09:13
1st. 00:09:18
But I think two of you are going to be going on the 21st of June, so. 00:09:19
Go ahead and. 00:09:25
Set those for the 19th. 00:09:26
We've cleared down with them. 00:09:30
And they'll they'll be ready to be here. They've also given us $500, which is our requisite. 00:09:31
Amount that we ask for when they submit it. 00:09:39
So again, what you'll be doing is just reviewing and approving the Service plan. It still would need to go to a vote of the 00:09:43
people. 00:09:48
Following and I think that's going to be in November. OK. 00:09:54
Mr. Said, just just to make it clear, if we weren't to, if we were not to approve this, they could still go ahead. Is that 00:09:59
correct? 00:10:04
They would appeal your decision to the District Court. 00:10:09
And I you know, the District Court would be looking at your reasons for denial to see if in fact in the District Court may. 00:10:14
Say those are good enough reasons and then send it back to you for consideration. They still have to have out of the people 00:10:23
whether they want to accept boundaries, correct? 00:10:27
Right. So this is more of administrative. 00:10:32
Kind of. 00:10:35
A little bit it it does require them to make certain that your concerns are are taken into consideration. 00:10:36
And so you know, what we've done is. 00:10:47
We put in some of the protections. 00:10:50
That we've got in our standard service plans. 00:10:53
And they accepted all of them. 00:10:58
OK. 00:11:00
And just make sure I'm 100% certain this is simply setting the time for the public hearing. Then we will have a discussion and 00:11:02
decision at that time on the. 00:11:07
Get it? That's case Mr. Chair would approve the resolution It's seconded. Move by Commissioner James, second by Commissioner Ross 00:11:14
to approve. All in favor, Aye. Opposed motion carries. 00:11:18
OK, that concludes new business. We have one item under planning first reading of Code Ordinance 2023, Dash 06 and now repealing 00:11:23
reenactment Chapter 2020 and Chapter 29 building regulations of the Weld County Code agricultural buildings. 00:11:30
OK. Good morning, commissioners. Tom Parker, Department of Planning Services. With me is Mr. Jim Fletcher. 00:11:38
The ordinance before you this morning on first reading is attempting to address some of the challenges the county is facing with 00:11:44
agricultural buildings. I kind of just want to stay, say right out of the gates that this ordinance is not attempting to strike. 00:11:52
Or remove agricultural buildings from the code. 00:12:00
We firmly believe that agricultural buildings definitely have their place in the county for agricultural operations for people and 00:12:04
they ability for them to store agricultural products and farm implements. That said, the intent of agricultural buildings has been 00:12:10
misused. 00:12:17
Especially on smaller lots and within subdivisions in town sites. Many of the agricultural buildings have been converted to other 00:12:24
uses over time, over the last couple of years in particular. 00:12:30
We've seen many of these agricultural buildings have been converted to other types of uses. One good example of this is we we see 00:12:36
a lot of these buildings being converted to homes. As you all know, we've seen a large spike in our population and housing costs 00:12:44
and prices have gone through the roof. So I think a lot of people inadvertently think that you know if they've got a building 00:12:51
there in the back that that that, you know, they might want to use for someone in their family. 00:12:59
They ran out. They they convert some of these agricultural buildings into that. So what we're really trying to address here is 00:13:06
basic life safety issues. 00:13:11
Because as many of you know, our agricultural buildings do not require building permits. We call them certificates of compliance. 00:13:17
So they come in, fill out A1, pager, check a few boxes, and then all we're doing is we're verifying that setbacks are met. We 00:13:25
still allow electricity and water to these types of buildings, so we might go out and inspect on electrical, but other than that 00:13:32
we are not going out and following up. 00:13:40
To make sure that they're in compliance and we certainly don't do that like on an annual basis where we go out and try to verify 00:13:47
that that building is still being used. So we do not do that. So a lot of a lot of the issues that we're seeing just come to us as 00:13:55
a complaint either from a surrounding property owner that maybe this particular building isn't being used properly or or a lot of 00:14:03
times too we'll see a new property owner come in maybe two or three down the line where they just coming in for a basic permit. 00:14:10
For like solar panels or something like that. And then we say ohh good grief. 00:14:18
We apologize, but that building hasn't been permitted correctly and then we have to spend a lot of time, a lot of staff time 00:14:24
trying to make sure that that building is permitted correctly and that sometimes requires a change of use and it can be quite 00:14:31
expensive. So we're just trying to get out in front of it and like I had mentioned earlier in my my comments that. 00:14:37
A lot of this is just happening in our town sites and subdivisions. We're still out in the agricultural zone, you know, 00:14:44
agricultural buildings you can still, you know have at it. So we did talk to the Board of County Commissioners on March 13th 00:14:52
during the work session where staff did bring some of these challenges to the board. We received direction from the Board of 00:15:00
County Commissioners to pursue some code changes. So we offer the following amendments that are outlined in the memo. 00:15:07
That Mister Fletcher prepared to the Board of County Commissioners, in addition to some of the changes that we're proposing to add 00:15:15
buildings. 00:15:19
We're making some minor tweaks to cargo containers. 00:15:24
Actually kind of making this better with with respect to those cargo containers are saying that they're don't need a building 00:15:27
permit if they're going to be used for storage. But we're starting to see is a lot of creativity too with people in cargo 00:15:33
containers. They're not using them just for storage. Some folks have approached us, although we've never actually seen a building 00:15:40
permit for it yet, but they want to use them for a house? Well, they'll go out and buy a bunch of cargo containers and Weld them 00:15:46
together. 00:15:52
And do that and and we do allow that, but it just requires a building permit. So trying to provide a little bit more flexibility 00:15:58
there. 00:16:02
With the cargo containers. 00:16:07
Certainly happy to to go through this particular change in more detail with respect to the agricultural buildings. But what what I 00:16:09
will say is that on on May 2nd, we did take this proposed ordinance to the Planning Commission and we had some pretty good 00:16:16
discussions with the Planning Commission and they asked a lot of good questions. But at the end of the day, the planning 00:16:24
Commissioners recommended denial of this proposed ordinance for for a number of reasons and I can go on those in some detail. 00:16:31
I did speak at the Planning Commission towards the end and I thanked them for their comments and I and I offered up that. Look, 00:16:39
we've got a three reading process in front of the Board of County Commissioners and that it would probably be very good to have a 00:16:45
work session. So you probably notice on your calendars for tomorrow afternoon at 2:30, there is a joint work session scheduled 00:16:51
with the Board of County Commissioners and we invited all the planning commissioners and we also invited Mr. Naylor with AG 00:16:57
professionals who also spoke. 00:17:03
At Planning Commission and had some concerns. So we took those concerns seriously. We went back to the drawing board staff. It's 00:17:09
spent a few weeks coming up on the white board, going through and maybe making some proposed changes to what you see here. And 00:17:17
we'd really like to discuss those changes with the board and the Planning Commission during tomorrow's work session. 00:17:25
But at the end of the day, staff still supports making some, some changes to to agricultural buildings and we would recommend that 00:17:34
we continue moving this process forward knowing that there's going to be some, some changes and some tweaks and and other things 00:17:43
that we're happy to discuss with the board. So with that said, I'd be happy to answer any questions that you all have. 00:17:52
Yes, Bongo boy. Boy are you? 00:18:04
So surprised that I have not heard any. 00:18:07
Perhaps we can do a similar kind of an outreach we did for for land owners and for even members of the Planning Commission. 00:18:41
Uh, you know, we did something over here in the Event Center that one time I'd requested a a similar kind of a of an event here 00:18:48
because there is some concern that I'd just like to clear that up before we get on to the second reading. So that'd be my input. 00:18:53
I'll be supportive today, but I hope that we kind of lean into that stakeholder and absolutely. Thanks. 00:18:59
Yes, and I received a lot of feedback as well on this. I'd actually be uncomfortable moving this forward today. I'd be a no vote 00:19:06
just because I think this is one of those things where we when we have a lot of feedback. 00:19:11
I think it'd be more advantageous for us as a board to actually continue this for a couple of weeks. 00:19:17
Since we have a work session tomorrow, so I think it would add to the angst if we approved it in its form that I emailed the 00:19:22
amendment. So I would actually. 00:19:26
Once we have that our comment, I'd like to make a motion to continue. 00:19:31
NASCAR Ester for appropriate date. 00:19:35
Mr. Ross. 00:19:38
Couple of questions on what you have in front of us. So here for the consternation is coming out from the Health Center reached 00:19:39
out to me and this is good dialogue today and we'll have a great work session sounds like coming up, are we saying any 00:19:45
outbuildings and acres with acres of five or less? 00:19:51
Automatically aren't eligible for a exhibitor and an AG building and building, that's correct. So the way that we have not 00:19:57
drafted. 00:20:01
Um, is that anything, 5 acres or or less in a town site or subdivision, that's kind of what we're trying to move forward. And 00:20:06
you'll see this tomorrow as we're actually going to eliminate or propose to eliminate the acreage requirements. We're just going 00:20:11
to go back to what's? 00:20:16
In town sites and subdivisions, if you're out in the agricultural zone, it doesn't matter if you're on an acre or 1000 acres 00:20:22
outside of the town site or subdivision, you can have an accent building. I know that's not how this reads right in front of us 00:20:29
because it is broken out between 5 and 35 / 35 and then under 5 acres. But those are some of the concerns that I was hearing and 00:20:36
we heard from the Planning Commission too. So we tried to address that and again, we'll show. 00:20:42
Umm. 00:20:49
Or share those changes with you during tomorrow. But again, I think most of the misuse of these buildings is happening in 00:20:50
subdivisions and town sites. It happens a little bit. 00:20:56
Outside of the town sites and subdivisions, but again. 00:21:02
Our, our, our most concern is, is is again in the in those town sites. It's just concerning where we're not allowing it. So I'm 00:21:07
glad that we're looking at that for for. 00:21:11
Revision in this discussion that we're having because I know I think I expressed this in a work session. I know several. 00:21:16
Guys that they do own A5 acre or smaller place. 00:21:24
But they pardon hundreds if not thousands of acres next to it, you know, it's so it gets, it gets a little picky, right. And then 00:21:28
the other thing I wanted to address on Page 4 here inside this. 00:21:34
Reading versus agricultural building. Building means, it says, for the sole purposes of. 00:21:39
Housing, apartments, have great poultry, livestock and other horticultural products, so. 00:21:44
I know we allow him to put electricity in there, we allow water to go in there. So can I put a bathroom in my building? 00:21:50
And still keep it as an age building. 00:21:58
So that's kind of. 00:22:01
Umm. 00:22:02
I know that that's happened in the in the past. I think some folks have have even tried to put offices and and bathrooms in their 00:22:03
agricultural buildings too. And moving forward we're we're just saying really kind of going by the definition of that 00:22:09
agricultural. 00:22:15
Product of farm equipment, those types of thing, agricultural products, that's really. 00:22:23
And we should be allowed in those buildings anything else above and beyond that. 00:22:28
We'd have to go through and and make changes to the definition of little tricky there so my horse can relieve itself and my barn. 00:22:33
Yet I can't, right? And so I get kicked back right from people going. 00:22:40
You know, but this is kind of where we're, this is kind of where we're at as people try to put more modern amenities in in 00:22:50
different buildings that still. 00:22:54
For the purpose of their their farm, right? And so. 00:22:58
I don't know. I think it's good discussion to continue. 00:23:02
Having in the opposite side thing too. 00:23:05
When we talk about AG, AG is Agri business right now. 00:23:08
Right. So I can see why people want to have offices as they're trading their commodities or they're doing whatever else they do, 00:23:11
because running a farm is truly a business and there's a office component to it. So I think these are all discussions. 00:23:19
I would like to continue to have. 00:23:26
As as we have that discussion. 00:23:28
Commissioners, to the clarifying question. You're gonna kick back from the horse or the person. 00:23:32
So I I just wanna make sure that I think. 00:23:37
Tomorrow we're going to get some, maybe some, innovative answers, because it doesn't make sense to people. 00:23:40
It does make sense if you consider the liability issue to the county and that's what I'm concerned with. 00:23:46
So when we're asking the questions can you can you might or may I, you know Governor, may I, I understand the cost or nation 00:23:51
however back to. 00:23:56
Our code, the way it sits and what they have to enforce. 00:24:02
I I think there's ways that we can be more innovative to allow more of those uses but also keep the county safe. And so I know 00:24:06
we're all concerned with that as well. There's also people who may not be, they're not victimized necessarily because it's always 00:24:11
caved in. I'm through when you when you buy any kind of property, you should be looking to see how it was permitted that we're 00:24:17
receiving a lot of consternation from folks who didn't realize. 00:24:22
The the property they bought. 00:24:28
Um, it was not permanent and it's very expensive to go back in. 00:24:30
And and get that certified again, once we know about it, we are liable. So. So there's there's people who are both ends of the 00:24:35
equation. 00:24:39
Um, but I think there's a way that we can. 00:24:44
Make it easier for business to happen and we'll count because that's what we're all about. So I think we're going to get some. 00:24:47
To continue to have a discussion with the work session and there could be multiple changes between 1st and 2nd, but by going ahead 00:25:23
and approving first reading, it gets, it gets it into the discussion phase and it gets us in a place where we're starting. So I 00:25:29
would be supportive of passing on first reading today. Commissioner James, thank you. Just a question of power lines to to our. 00:25:35
Our County Attorney, we submitted, we submitted for first reading. 00:25:41
Make sure it suggested a continuance, I I'd be open to that, but I'm curious as to what that does because even if we do continue 00:25:47
to update later, it has to be the first reading. 00:25:52
As presented right, can we amend it and then present it? 00:25:57
Yep. One, I, you know the, the best way to do it is to get it on the table today, yeah. And then amendments mean done that. 00:26:01
Common place in the past and when there have been changes sometimes. 00:26:10
We've continued it for months. 00:26:15
Meetings for almost a year. 00:26:19
But my point being is if we continue this matter, it's this ordinance as presented, it's the first reading as presented that we're 00:26:23
continuing. So we would still be considering the same thing, just continued to a later date, whereas the intent is to make 00:26:28
changes. The best way to do that is to approve the first reading. 00:26:34
I mean, it's sort of like legislation. 00:26:40
You need to get it on the table first. 00:26:43
And that's why the first reading is. 00:26:46
You don't have to have. 00:26:48
A lot of back and forth. For the first reading you just get a get it on second reading is when typically you have your changes. 00:26:50
Well the other thing that I think should be noted is this first reading has been noticed as well. So. 00:26:57
Sounds like it's a surprise today. 00:27:05
Correct. 00:27:07
And I just do think that that's important that the the reading has been set. So now it's of people if anybody's watching people 00:27:09
are aware. And so I I don't see the benefit. 00:27:15
Of not. 00:27:21
Passing this on 1st orders, just listening to council doesn't make sense. 00:27:23
Thank you so much for saying I'm gonna request A roll call vote if this. 00:27:28
You have to vote for legislation on its face, and so when. 00:27:34
When you don't have. 00:27:38
I think we're going to make substantive changes to this, so I'm not comfortable voting on this today. I would urge you continue. 00:27:41
It's because we can still have the same discussion, but then we'll also have. 00:27:45
Um, that discussion at the ready as far as why we're moving forward on first reading. So I'm going to be a no vote today if we do 00:27:50
approve the ordinance, but with the anticipation that we're going to see some. 00:27:56
Really good changes as soon as tomorrow. 00:28:02
Hey my my recommendation if that's the case is. 00:28:05
Go ahead and deny it. It would be worth and then revamp it and bring it back. And I'd rather do that. 00:28:09
I mean that's. 00:28:16
You can do it that way. I'm still supportive of just go ahead and approve the first reading, get it on the table. We could have 00:28:18
the work sessions. We can have what Scott is requesting. If we want to do that, we can continue second meeting. 00:28:24
You can make changes between second and third reading. This is just a matter of getting it on the table so that we can have 00:28:30
discussion. 00:28:32
I think to reiterate what Commissioner James is saying. 00:28:36
Yes, Scott, if we continue this, it is still there still. 00:28:40
Forward. So whether it's first reading today that we approve or we continue this, it is still this draft that we're bringing 00:28:45
forward and we will amend and change would be my my understanding. Unless you would just deny it and then that means they have 00:28:50
denial, throw it out. 00:28:55
So I think, I would rather, I think that makes I think that just the ways how long we actually get to the end of the process. I 00:29:01
think that at the end of the day I think we ought to just approve first reading and then go do whatever amendments and changes we 00:29:05
want to do and then bring back second whenever we do. 00:29:10
I mean, it may also be that after discussions. 00:29:16
It gets a second reading and you deny it, Yeah. 00:29:20
Yeah, you know, you just could just figure, well, some other time, Yeah. And again, I just think that it's better to get it on the 00:29:25
books as it is to get the discussion going, to get it publicly. 00:29:30
Out there for people to comment. So I think this is an opportunity I I honestly, I I understand what question you're saying. 00:29:38
Thinking, but I think to get the discussion going, I think we should go ahead and and approve. 00:29:46
At this first meeting. 00:29:52
OK, this any other questions? Comments. OK, this is the public hearing. Is there anybody in the public that wishes to discuss 00:29:54
first reading of Code Ordinance 2023-06? 00:29:59
Good thing and I'll bring it back to the board. 00:30:06
The share will be approved on First Reading Code Ordinance 2023-06. 00:30:09
2nd. 00:30:14
It's been moved like Mr. James, second by Commissioner Ross, to approve Code Ordinance 2023-06 on first reading. 00:30:15
Any further discussion? 00:30:21
Coco. 00:30:24
Scott teams yes. Kevin Rock, Yes. 00:30:26
Voicing no payback? Make payments? Yes, let's reflect. That passes on a four to one vote with commissioner saying being dissent, 00:30:29
giving the scent. 00:30:33
Umm. 00:30:37
With that concludes planning. Thanks, Tom. Thank you, Commissioner. And we'll move on to public comment. Is there any public 00:30:39
comment this morning? 00:30:43
OK. So no public comment. We will close that and we will adjourn at 933. Thanks everybody. 00:30:48
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OK, alright go ahead and call over the Board of County Commissioners that the reflect all five county commissioners are present 00:00:04
then it's approval of minutes of May 8th, 2023 move to approve. 00:00:09
Second then moved by Commissioner Ross, second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries. Read code 00:00:14
Read ordinance by audio read code code Ordinance 2023-06 by audio read ordinance by audio. Second move by Commissioner James, 00:00:21
second by Commissioner Buck to read by audio. All in favor opposed motion carries. 00:00:27
Kindness. 00:00:36
OK, approval of consent agenda moved to approve consent agenda. 00:00:37
Tech and move like Mr. Ross, Second like Mr. James to approve the consent agenda. All in favor, Aye. Opposed Motion carries. 00:00:41
Commissioner, coordinator reports Commissioner James will start on that end today. I think professionally report personally, if 00:00:49
somebody yells heads, don't look that direction because there's a softball coming your way. 00:00:55
OK, and that nothing to report. You know, in your politics you have to explain a couple of black eyes, should it be apparent. 00:01:03
That's good. 00:01:12
I'm done, Commissioner. Puck. Nothing to report. All is well, OK, Mr. Ross. Projects on Two Rivers are going along. Great weather. 00:01:15
Had a little bit of delays, but it sounds like the team doing a good job of staying on schedule there. 00:01:22
Round about in the shore, up a little bit of the soil there it up 33 and 74, but they're working on that. 00:01:31
And uh. 00:01:40
We're at 90% planned on the roundabout at 13 and. 00:01:42
6 down here in the South part of the county. So things are progressing. Good deal, Lot of construction projects. 00:01:46
Commissioner saying nothing, no part to speak. 00:01:52
OK. I don't have anything either. So with that, we'll move on to warrants, #1 general warrants May 19th, 5/23. 00:01:55
Move to approve or second and like Mr. Ross, second like Mr. Buck to approve all in favor aye. Opposed motion carries bids number 00:02:01
one approved Bid B 23,087 facilities master plan facilities department. 00:02:08
Good morning, Carolyn Geiser, purchasing. 00:02:19
This bid was for Facilities Master Plan for Weld County I was. It was published as a request for proposal. The RFP identified the 00:02:25
following areas that would be evaluated Firm, Capability Consultant and key staff. 00:02:32
Experiences and Qualifications Project approach. 00:02:40
From availability and project schedule and costs. 00:02:44
The community narrowed the respondents to a short list of two. These two were asked to provide a best and final offer to be a FO 00:02:47
DLR group provided ABAFO of. 00:02:54
$968,000 and Ginsler provided a BAFO of. 00:03:00
$951,579 The results of the committee evaluation shown on an attachment a show Gensler as the overall best value for this 00:03:07
solicitation. Therefore, the Facilities department is recommending the award to Gensler in the amount of 951,579 thousand. 00:03:18
Questions. 00:03:32
Nope, it's here. I moved to approve. 00:03:33
2nd. 00:03:34
Then move on. Commissioner Ross second by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor Aye Opposed Motion carries #2 approve bid B 00:03:36
2300105 Jail Elevator Modernization Facilities Department. 00:03:41
As advertised, this bid is for the modernization of jail elevators CP08 Dash. 00:03:48
0029644 The low bidder was Peak Elevator LLC for $141,975.00 but did not meet the bid specifications feed out. 00:03:56
Peak Elevator LLC failed to include the elevator jacks, which are required to be replaced in the project specific. 00:04:08
Specific terms and conditions. 00:04:17
The second low bid was Centric Elevator Corporation in the amount of $179,546 and meets the exceed or exceeds specifications since 00:04:21
the first low bidder. 00:04:27
Did not meet the specifications, while county facilities recommends awarding the second low bidder centric Elevator Corporation in 00:04:34
the amount of $179,564. 00:04:40
Any questions? Question for 2nd. Just want to thank you for the specificity on the on the specifications. Thank you. Thank you. 00:04:47
Get proof. 00:04:56
So then move like Mr. Buck, second by Mr. Ross to approve all in favor Opposed Motion carries #3 approved Bid the 2300108 Shooting 00:04:57
Range Water Treatment Facilities Department. 00:05:02
As advertised, this bid is for a water treatment system for the Weld County shooting range. The bid was published as a request for 00:05:09
bid. 00:05:13
Only one vendor replied to the RFP. 00:05:17
The vendor was RK Water LLC. During the review process, it was determined that the equipment offered in the RFB different from 00:05:21
what was designed to move the equipment that was bid, will not fit into the space that is allocated for it. Therefore, Facilities 00:05:28
department is recommending that the rejection of the bid from RK Water LLC facilities where we bid the project once design 00:05:36
consultant has provided adequately sized location for all. 00:05:43
Water treatment equipment. 00:05:51
Any questions? 00:05:54
Motion to move to. 00:05:56
Deny the bid and go out for rebid on this. 00:05:59
Been moved by commissioner Ross, second by commissioner James. Reject the bid and go out for rebid. 00:06:04
Ohh future date. 00:06:09
Any further discussion all in favor opposed motion carries. 00:06:12
Thank you. 00:06:17
But can we still hold on, Sorry, we still have, I'm sorry, we have 1% there. Sorry about that. Number four present there would be 00:06:18
230-0114 backup generators for fleet services, community corrections and alternative programs, facilities department. 00:06:25
The purchasing department received two bids. We will. The bids have been sent to the facilities department for review. 00:06:32
We will be back on June 5th for approval. 00:06:40
That is a huge for those two. 00:06:45
Wow. Wow. OK, any further? Any any other questions? OK. 00:06:48
Thank you. Now that concludes bids. 00:06:56
Move on to new business #1, Considered temporary closure of County Road 36 between Cairo's 15 and 17. 00:06:58
Good morning Commissioners, Amy Machi, Public Works. Public Works is requesting this closure to begin on May 30th and go through 00:07:08
June 2nd. This is for replacing a drainage culvert. Water will be used for dust treatment on the one mile of gravel roadway within 00:07:14
the Detour Row. 00:07:20
OK, questions. 00:07:27
Move to approve second, then moved by Commissioner Brock, second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor opposed motion 00:07:29
carries #2. Consider temporary closure of County Road 54 between County Road 43 and 45. Public Works is requesting this closure to 00:07:36
begin on June 6th and go through June 9th. This is replacing your gation covert. 00:07:42
Umm. 00:07:49
There will be message boards in advance of this closure just due to the traffic volumes that use this section of roadway. 00:07:51
And my card will be used on the gravel roadway within the detour routes. Questions move to approve 2nd and you'd like to Mr. James 00:07:57
second by commissioner but to approve All in favor. Opposed. 00:08:03
Motion carries. Thank you, thank you, thank you #3. Consider acceptance of filing of Service plan and set hearing date for 00:08:10
consideration. First five years early childhood development service district. 00:08:16
Chairman, this is like I told you or give the board a heads up that. 00:08:22
We would be getting this. 00:08:27
We got it, and then I made some. 00:08:30
Suggested changes to the Service plan and also went to Boulder County. They made a few suggestions. 00:08:32
Went back and now it's being presented to both Weld County and Boulder County. 00:08:40
So this would be a district. 00:08:45
That is allowed pursuant to. 00:08:47
Some statutes that were enacted about two years ago. 00:08:51
Umm. 00:08:55
And it would be in both Weld County and Boulder County. 00:08:57
So what we've done with this resolution, what it does is it sets the date as June 19th. 00:09:01
And 9:00 AM for your hearing. Boulder County is going to be working on it the next day. I was sort of hoping that we could do this 00:09:08
on the 20. 00:09:13
1st. 00:09:18
But I think two of you are going to be going on the 21st of June, so. 00:09:19
Go ahead and. 00:09:25
Set those for the 19th. 00:09:26
We've cleared down with them. 00:09:30
And they'll they'll be ready to be here. They've also given us $500, which is our requisite. 00:09:31
Amount that we ask for when they submit it. 00:09:39
So again, what you'll be doing is just reviewing and approving the Service plan. It still would need to go to a vote of the 00:09:43
people. 00:09:48
Following and I think that's going to be in November. OK. 00:09:54
Mr. Said, just just to make it clear, if we weren't to, if we were not to approve this, they could still go ahead. Is that 00:09:59
correct? 00:10:04
They would appeal your decision to the District Court. 00:10:09
And I you know, the District Court would be looking at your reasons for denial to see if in fact in the District Court may. 00:10:14
Say those are good enough reasons and then send it back to you for consideration. They still have to have out of the people 00:10:23
whether they want to accept boundaries, correct? 00:10:27
Right. So this is more of administrative. 00:10:32
Kind of. 00:10:35
A little bit it it does require them to make certain that your concerns are are taken into consideration. 00:10:36
And so you know, what we've done is. 00:10:47
We put in some of the protections. 00:10:50
That we've got in our standard service plans. 00:10:53
And they accepted all of them. 00:10:58
OK. 00:11:00
And just make sure I'm 100% certain this is simply setting the time for the public hearing. Then we will have a discussion and 00:11:02
decision at that time on the. 00:11:07
Get it? That's case Mr. Chair would approve the resolution It's seconded. Move by Commissioner James, second by Commissioner Ross 00:11:14
to approve. All in favor, Aye. Opposed motion carries. 00:11:18
OK, that concludes new business. We have one item under planning first reading of Code Ordinance 2023, Dash 06 and now repealing 00:11:23
reenactment Chapter 2020 and Chapter 29 building regulations of the Weld County Code agricultural buildings. 00:11:30
OK. Good morning, commissioners. Tom Parker, Department of Planning Services. With me is Mr. Jim Fletcher. 00:11:38
The ordinance before you this morning on first reading is attempting to address some of the challenges the county is facing with 00:11:44
agricultural buildings. I kind of just want to stay, say right out of the gates that this ordinance is not attempting to strike. 00:11:52
Or remove agricultural buildings from the code. 00:12:00
We firmly believe that agricultural buildings definitely have their place in the county for agricultural operations for people and 00:12:04
they ability for them to store agricultural products and farm implements. That said, the intent of agricultural buildings has been 00:12:10
misused. 00:12:17
Especially on smaller lots and within subdivisions in town sites. Many of the agricultural buildings have been converted to other 00:12:24
uses over time, over the last couple of years in particular. 00:12:30
We've seen many of these agricultural buildings have been converted to other types of uses. One good example of this is we we see 00:12:36
a lot of these buildings being converted to homes. As you all know, we've seen a large spike in our population and housing costs 00:12:44
and prices have gone through the roof. So I think a lot of people inadvertently think that you know if they've got a building 00:12:51
there in the back that that that, you know, they might want to use for someone in their family. 00:12:59
They ran out. They they convert some of these agricultural buildings into that. So what we're really trying to address here is 00:13:06
basic life safety issues. 00:13:11
Because as many of you know, our agricultural buildings do not require building permits. We call them certificates of compliance. 00:13:17
So they come in, fill out A1, pager, check a few boxes, and then all we're doing is we're verifying that setbacks are met. We 00:13:25
still allow electricity and water to these types of buildings, so we might go out and inspect on electrical, but other than that 00:13:32
we are not going out and following up. 00:13:40
To make sure that they're in compliance and we certainly don't do that like on an annual basis where we go out and try to verify 00:13:47
that that building is still being used. So we do not do that. So a lot of a lot of the issues that we're seeing just come to us as 00:13:55
a complaint either from a surrounding property owner that maybe this particular building isn't being used properly or or a lot of 00:14:03
times too we'll see a new property owner come in maybe two or three down the line where they just coming in for a basic permit. 00:14:10
For like solar panels or something like that. And then we say ohh good grief. 00:14:18
We apologize, but that building hasn't been permitted correctly and then we have to spend a lot of time, a lot of staff time 00:14:24
trying to make sure that that building is permitted correctly and that sometimes requires a change of use and it can be quite 00:14:31
expensive. So we're just trying to get out in front of it and like I had mentioned earlier in my my comments that. 00:14:37
A lot of this is just happening in our town sites and subdivisions. We're still out in the agricultural zone, you know, 00:14:44
agricultural buildings you can still, you know have at it. So we did talk to the Board of County Commissioners on March 13th 00:14:52
during the work session where staff did bring some of these challenges to the board. We received direction from the Board of 00:15:00
County Commissioners to pursue some code changes. So we offer the following amendments that are outlined in the memo. 00:15:07
That Mister Fletcher prepared to the Board of County Commissioners, in addition to some of the changes that we're proposing to add 00:15:15
buildings. 00:15:19
We're making some minor tweaks to cargo containers. 00:15:24
Actually kind of making this better with with respect to those cargo containers are saying that they're don't need a building 00:15:27
permit if they're going to be used for storage. But we're starting to see is a lot of creativity too with people in cargo 00:15:33
containers. They're not using them just for storage. Some folks have approached us, although we've never actually seen a building 00:15:40
permit for it yet, but they want to use them for a house? Well, they'll go out and buy a bunch of cargo containers and Weld them 00:15:46
together. 00:15:52
And do that and and we do allow that, but it just requires a building permit. So trying to provide a little bit more flexibility 00:15:58
there. 00:16:02
With the cargo containers. 00:16:07
Certainly happy to to go through this particular change in more detail with respect to the agricultural buildings. But what what I 00:16:09
will say is that on on May 2nd, we did take this proposed ordinance to the Planning Commission and we had some pretty good 00:16:16
discussions with the Planning Commission and they asked a lot of good questions. But at the end of the day, the planning 00:16:24
Commissioners recommended denial of this proposed ordinance for for a number of reasons and I can go on those in some detail. 00:16:31
I did speak at the Planning Commission towards the end and I thanked them for their comments and I and I offered up that. Look, 00:16:39
we've got a three reading process in front of the Board of County Commissioners and that it would probably be very good to have a 00:16:45
work session. So you probably notice on your calendars for tomorrow afternoon at 2:30, there is a joint work session scheduled 00:16:51
with the Board of County Commissioners and we invited all the planning commissioners and we also invited Mr. Naylor with AG 00:16:57
professionals who also spoke. 00:17:03
At Planning Commission and had some concerns. So we took those concerns seriously. We went back to the drawing board staff. It's 00:17:09
spent a few weeks coming up on the white board, going through and maybe making some proposed changes to what you see here. And 00:17:17
we'd really like to discuss those changes with the board and the Planning Commission during tomorrow's work session. 00:17:25
But at the end of the day, staff still supports making some, some changes to to agricultural buildings and we would recommend that 00:17:34
we continue moving this process forward knowing that there's going to be some, some changes and some tweaks and and other things 00:17:43
that we're happy to discuss with the board. So with that said, I'd be happy to answer any questions that you all have. 00:17:52
Yes, Bongo boy. Boy are you? 00:18:04
So surprised that I have not heard any. 00:18:07
Perhaps we can do a similar kind of an outreach we did for for land owners and for even members of the Planning Commission. 00:18:41
Uh, you know, we did something over here in the Event Center that one time I'd requested a a similar kind of a of an event here 00:18:48
because there is some concern that I'd just like to clear that up before we get on to the second reading. So that'd be my input. 00:18:53
I'll be supportive today, but I hope that we kind of lean into that stakeholder and absolutely. Thanks. 00:18:59
Yes, and I received a lot of feedback as well on this. I'd actually be uncomfortable moving this forward today. I'd be a no vote 00:19:06
just because I think this is one of those things where we when we have a lot of feedback. 00:19:11
I think it'd be more advantageous for us as a board to actually continue this for a couple of weeks. 00:19:17
Since we have a work session tomorrow, so I think it would add to the angst if we approved it in its form that I emailed the 00:19:22
amendment. So I would actually. 00:19:26
Once we have that our comment, I'd like to make a motion to continue. 00:19:31
NASCAR Ester for appropriate date. 00:19:35
Mr. Ross. 00:19:38
Couple of questions on what you have in front of us. So here for the consternation is coming out from the Health Center reached 00:19:39
out to me and this is good dialogue today and we'll have a great work session sounds like coming up, are we saying any 00:19:45
outbuildings and acres with acres of five or less? 00:19:51
Automatically aren't eligible for a exhibitor and an AG building and building, that's correct. So the way that we have not 00:19:57
drafted. 00:20:01
Um, is that anything, 5 acres or or less in a town site or subdivision, that's kind of what we're trying to move forward. And 00:20:06
you'll see this tomorrow as we're actually going to eliminate or propose to eliminate the acreage requirements. We're just going 00:20:11
to go back to what's? 00:20:16
In town sites and subdivisions, if you're out in the agricultural zone, it doesn't matter if you're on an acre or 1000 acres 00:20:22
outside of the town site or subdivision, you can have an accent building. I know that's not how this reads right in front of us 00:20:29
because it is broken out between 5 and 35 / 35 and then under 5 acres. But those are some of the concerns that I was hearing and 00:20:36
we heard from the Planning Commission too. So we tried to address that and again, we'll show. 00:20:42
Umm. 00:20:49
Or share those changes with you during tomorrow. But again, I think most of the misuse of these buildings is happening in 00:20:50
subdivisions and town sites. It happens a little bit. 00:20:56
Outside of the town sites and subdivisions, but again. 00:21:02
Our, our, our most concern is, is is again in the in those town sites. It's just concerning where we're not allowing it. So I'm 00:21:07
glad that we're looking at that for for. 00:21:11
Revision in this discussion that we're having because I know I think I expressed this in a work session. I know several. 00:21:16
Guys that they do own A5 acre or smaller place. 00:21:24
But they pardon hundreds if not thousands of acres next to it, you know, it's so it gets, it gets a little picky, right. And then 00:21:28
the other thing I wanted to address on Page 4 here inside this. 00:21:34
Reading versus agricultural building. Building means, it says, for the sole purposes of. 00:21:39
Housing, apartments, have great poultry, livestock and other horticultural products, so. 00:21:44
I know we allow him to put electricity in there, we allow water to go in there. So can I put a bathroom in my building? 00:21:50
And still keep it as an age building. 00:21:58
So that's kind of. 00:22:01
Umm. 00:22:02
I know that that's happened in the in the past. I think some folks have have even tried to put offices and and bathrooms in their 00:22:03
agricultural buildings too. And moving forward we're we're just saying really kind of going by the definition of that 00:22:09
agricultural. 00:22:15
Product of farm equipment, those types of thing, agricultural products, that's really. 00:22:23
And we should be allowed in those buildings anything else above and beyond that. 00:22:28
We'd have to go through and and make changes to the definition of little tricky there so my horse can relieve itself and my barn. 00:22:33
Yet I can't, right? And so I get kicked back right from people going. 00:22:40
You know, but this is kind of where we're, this is kind of where we're at as people try to put more modern amenities in in 00:22:50
different buildings that still. 00:22:54
For the purpose of their their farm, right? And so. 00:22:58
I don't know. I think it's good discussion to continue. 00:23:02
Having in the opposite side thing too. 00:23:05
When we talk about AG, AG is Agri business right now. 00:23:08
Right. So I can see why people want to have offices as they're trading their commodities or they're doing whatever else they do, 00:23:11
because running a farm is truly a business and there's a office component to it. So I think these are all discussions. 00:23:19
I would like to continue to have. 00:23:26
As as we have that discussion. 00:23:28
Commissioners, to the clarifying question. You're gonna kick back from the horse or the person. 00:23:32
So I I just wanna make sure that I think. 00:23:37
Tomorrow we're going to get some, maybe some, innovative answers, because it doesn't make sense to people. 00:23:40
It does make sense if you consider the liability issue to the county and that's what I'm concerned with. 00:23:46
So when we're asking the questions can you can you might or may I, you know Governor, may I, I understand the cost or nation 00:23:51
however back to. 00:23:56
Our code, the way it sits and what they have to enforce. 00:24:02
I I think there's ways that we can be more innovative to allow more of those uses but also keep the county safe. And so I know 00:24:06
we're all concerned with that as well. There's also people who may not be, they're not victimized necessarily because it's always 00:24:11
caved in. I'm through when you when you buy any kind of property, you should be looking to see how it was permitted that we're 00:24:17
receiving a lot of consternation from folks who didn't realize. 00:24:22
The the property they bought. 00:24:28
Um, it was not permanent and it's very expensive to go back in. 00:24:30
And and get that certified again, once we know about it, we are liable. So. So there's there's people who are both ends of the 00:24:35
equation. 00:24:39
Um, but I think there's a way that we can. 00:24:44
Make it easier for business to happen and we'll count because that's what we're all about. So I think we're going to get some. 00:24:47
To continue to have a discussion with the work session and there could be multiple changes between 1st and 2nd, but by going ahead 00:25:23
and approving first reading, it gets, it gets it into the discussion phase and it gets us in a place where we're starting. So I 00:25:29
would be supportive of passing on first reading today. Commissioner James, thank you. Just a question of power lines to to our. 00:25:35
Our County Attorney, we submitted, we submitted for first reading. 00:25:41
Make sure it suggested a continuance, I I'd be open to that, but I'm curious as to what that does because even if we do continue 00:25:47
to update later, it has to be the first reading. 00:25:52
As presented right, can we amend it and then present it? 00:25:57
Yep. One, I, you know the, the best way to do it is to get it on the table today, yeah. And then amendments mean done that. 00:26:01
Common place in the past and when there have been changes sometimes. 00:26:10
We've continued it for months. 00:26:15
Meetings for almost a year. 00:26:19
But my point being is if we continue this matter, it's this ordinance as presented, it's the first reading as presented that we're 00:26:23
continuing. So we would still be considering the same thing, just continued to a later date, whereas the intent is to make 00:26:28
changes. The best way to do that is to approve the first reading. 00:26:34
I mean, it's sort of like legislation. 00:26:40
You need to get it on the table first. 00:26:43
And that's why the first reading is. 00:26:46
You don't have to have. 00:26:48
A lot of back and forth. For the first reading you just get a get it on second reading is when typically you have your changes. 00:26:50
Well the other thing that I think should be noted is this first reading has been noticed as well. So. 00:26:57
Sounds like it's a surprise today. 00:27:05
Correct. 00:27:07
And I just do think that that's important that the the reading has been set. So now it's of people if anybody's watching people 00:27:09
are aware. And so I I don't see the benefit. 00:27:15
Of not. 00:27:21
Passing this on 1st orders, just listening to council doesn't make sense. 00:27:23
Thank you so much for saying I'm gonna request A roll call vote if this. 00:27:28
You have to vote for legislation on its face, and so when. 00:27:34
When you don't have. 00:27:38
I think we're going to make substantive changes to this, so I'm not comfortable voting on this today. I would urge you continue. 00:27:41
It's because we can still have the same discussion, but then we'll also have. 00:27:45
Um, that discussion at the ready as far as why we're moving forward on first reading. So I'm going to be a no vote today if we do 00:27:50
approve the ordinance, but with the anticipation that we're going to see some. 00:27:56
Really good changes as soon as tomorrow. 00:28:02
Hey my my recommendation if that's the case is. 00:28:05
Go ahead and deny it. It would be worth and then revamp it and bring it back. And I'd rather do that. 00:28:09
I mean that's. 00:28:16
You can do it that way. I'm still supportive of just go ahead and approve the first reading, get it on the table. We could have 00:28:18
the work sessions. We can have what Scott is requesting. If we want to do that, we can continue second meeting. 00:28:24
You can make changes between second and third reading. This is just a matter of getting it on the table so that we can have 00:28:30
discussion. 00:28:32
I think to reiterate what Commissioner James is saying. 00:28:36
Yes, Scott, if we continue this, it is still there still. 00:28:40
Forward. So whether it's first reading today that we approve or we continue this, it is still this draft that we're bringing 00:28:45
forward and we will amend and change would be my my understanding. Unless you would just deny it and then that means they have 00:28:50
denial, throw it out. 00:28:55
So I think, I would rather, I think that makes I think that just the ways how long we actually get to the end of the process. I 00:29:01
think that at the end of the day I think we ought to just approve first reading and then go do whatever amendments and changes we 00:29:05
want to do and then bring back second whenever we do. 00:29:10
I mean, it may also be that after discussions. 00:29:16
It gets a second reading and you deny it, Yeah. 00:29:20
Yeah, you know, you just could just figure, well, some other time, Yeah. And again, I just think that it's better to get it on the 00:29:25
books as it is to get the discussion going, to get it publicly. 00:29:30
Out there for people to comment. So I think this is an opportunity I I honestly, I I understand what question you're saying. 00:29:38
Thinking, but I think to get the discussion going, I think we should go ahead and and approve. 00:29:46
At this first meeting. 00:29:52
OK, this any other questions? Comments. OK, this is the public hearing. Is there anybody in the public that wishes to discuss 00:29:54
first reading of Code Ordinance 2023-06? 00:29:59
Good thing and I'll bring it back to the board. 00:30:06
The share will be approved on First Reading Code Ordinance 2023-06. 00:30:09
2nd. 00:30:14
It's been moved like Mr. James, second by Commissioner Ross, to approve Code Ordinance 2023-06 on first reading. 00:30:15
Any further discussion? 00:30:21
Coco. 00:30:24
Scott teams yes. Kevin Rock, Yes. 00:30:26
Voicing no payback? Make payments? Yes, let's reflect. That passes on a four to one vote with commissioner saying being dissent, 00:30:29
giving the scent. 00:30:33
Umm. 00:30:37
With that concludes planning. Thanks, Tom. Thank you, Commissioner. And we'll move on to public comment. Is there any public 00:30:39
comment this morning? 00:30:43
OK. So no public comment. We will close that and we will adjourn at 933. Thanks everybody. 00:30:48
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