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ROLL CALL

MINUTES

AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA

CONSENT AGENDA

COMMISSIONER COORDINATOR REPORTS

WARRANTS: 1) GENERAL WARRANTS – JUNE 7, AND 9, 2023

BIDS: 1) PRESENT BID #B2300120, LAW ADMINISTRATION ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT

2) PRESENT BID #B2300122, NORTH JAIL SECURITY GRID CEILING REPLACEMENT – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT

NEW BUSINESS: 1) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7036 TASK ORDER CONTRACT FOR COMMUNITY TOBACCO INITIATIVES PROJECT / AMENDMENT 35 TOBACCO USE PREVENTION AND CESSATION EDUCATION, AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

2) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7038 AMENDMENT #1 TO TASK ORDER CONTRACT FOR WOMEN’S WELLNESS CONNECTION CANCER PREVENTION AND EARLY DETECTION PROGRAM, AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

3) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7039 TASK ORDER CONTRACT FOR IMMUNIZATION CORE SERVICES PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN AND SUBMIT

4) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7040 TASK ORDER CONTRACT FOR TUBERCULOSIS PREVENTION AND CONTROL PROGRAM, AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

5) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7062 CONTRACT AMENDMENT #6 FOR PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE, AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

6) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7064 STATEMENT OF WORK FOR WASTE TIRE INSPECTION PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN

7) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7065 AMENDMENT #1 TO TASK ORDER CONTRACT FOR AIR QUALITY PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

8) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7008 INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR CAMPUS POLICE OFFICER PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN – AIMS COMMUNITY COLLEGE

9) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7066 ACCEPTANCE/APPEAL OF PRELIMINARY AWARD DECISION FORM FOR 2023 EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (JAG) PROGRAM FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND AUTHORIZE SHERIFF’S OFFICE TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY

10) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7051 APPLICATION FOR 2024-2025 HAZARDOUS MATERIALS EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS (HMEP) GRANT AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN

11) CONSIDER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FOR BRIDGE 54/13A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN – DUSTIN AND JAMIE CHRISTENSEN

12) CONSIDER TEMPORARY ACCESS AND CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR BRIDGE 54/13A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN – DUSTIN AND JAMIE CHRISTENSEN

13) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7050 CONCURRENCE LETTER FOR SERVICE AREA OF FOREIGN-TRADE ZONE (FTZ) PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN

PLANNING: 1) CONSIDER APPLICATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE RELEASE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRUST FUNDS (TIER III) – INTERNATIONAL FARMS, LLC / ROAD TRUCKING, INC.

2) CONSIDER DECISION OF DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING SERVICES DIRECTOR ASSESSING ROAD IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING PERMIT, CMN22-0131 – STEVEN WELLS

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PUBLIC COMMENT
Join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:07:54
To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with 00:07:58
liberty and justice for all. 00:08:03
Good morning. It's Monday, June 12th, Callaway, the Board of County Commissioners, Roll call please. 00:08:11
Scratching Kevin Ross. 00:08:15
Harrison Payback? 00:08:18
Which reflected for our five county commissioners, President, Commissioner Ross, you. 00:08:21
Well, it's approval of minutes of May 24th, 2023 second. 00:08:25
And then move back to Mr. Buck. Second back to Mr. James who approve. All in favor. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries number city 00:08:30
agenda. We have any amendments? No Who the consent agenda. Items 1-2 and three under the consent agenda are partial vacation. Does 00:08:35
anybody want any of those polled? 00:08:41
Kathleen Donohue promotion to approve the consent agenda will be approved consent agenda. 00:08:48
Second then moved back to Mr. James, Second by Mr. Buck to approve all in favor. Opposed motion carries Commissioner coordinate, 00:08:52
reports Commissioner Singh. 00:08:57
Ohh. 00:09:03
I'll speak more next Monday, I'll. 00:09:05
This book, Nothing to report. Everything's good. 00:09:08
Same good move on the warranty. 00:09:11
General Warrants June 7 and June 9th, 2023. 00:09:15
Who can approve General Lawrence? 00:09:19
Would like Mr. James second like Mr. Brooks to approve all in favor opposed motion carries goods. 00:09:22
Number one would be 23001201 Enforcement Elevator Modernization Facilities Department. 00:09:28
Good morning. Caroline Geiser, Purchasing. 00:09:38
Purchasing received two bids. 00:09:42
We will be there in the Vincent to the. 00:09:44
Facilities department for their review. 00:09:47
We will be back on June 26th for approval. 00:09:50
Take Questions #2 Presented B 230-0122 N Jail security. 00:09:54
Providence Senior Replacement Facilities Department. 00:10:00
Purchasing received one bid. 00:10:04
It has been sent to the facilities department for review and we will be back on June 26th for approval. 00:10:06
Good questions. OK. Includes bids, we'll move the new business, #1 considered contract, ID 736, task order contract for community 00:10:13
tobacco initiatives. 00:10:18
Project. 00:10:23
Amendment 35, Tobacco use prevention and substance education and authorized shares of science have been electronically. Good 00:10:24
morning, Jason. 00:10:27
Good morning, Commissioners. 00:10:31
This is a. 00:10:34
Renewal for contract for tobacco use prevention and cessation program that our department has had for several years. The funding 00:10:36
comes from state tobacco excise taxes in the amount of $330,134. 00:10:44
This will allow us to continue the program at current levels, so no additional staff is requested and I recommend that the board 00:10:52
approve the contract. 00:10:56
The. 00:11:00
Persons. 00:11:01
Move to approve second move like Mr. Brooks, Second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor Aye opposed motion carries #2. 00:11:02
Consider contract ID 7038, Amendment #1, the task order contract for Women's Wellness Connection. 00:11:09
Cancer prevention and early detection program and authorized shares finance mid electronically. 00:11:17
And another contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. This is a great program that provides. 00:11:23
Funding to allow underserved women in Colorado those without insurance for those that are underinsured to. 00:11:29
UM have training for breast and cervical cancer. The contract dates are July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. The 00:11:37
funding is $57,169 which. 00:11:43
Allows us to continue the program. 00:11:50
At current levels, no new staffing is requested. I recommend that the board approve this contract. Move to approve. 00:11:53
The new bike Mr. Buck second by commissioner saying to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries #3 consider contract ID 00:12:01
7039, task order contract for immunization and core services program and authorized charter science and electronically. 00:12:08
This is really, this funding allows us to really provide the core services at the health department. This this is immunization 00:12:16
funding if you think of the vaccines that we all receive beginning at birth, all the way up through high school. 00:12:22
This funding provides those services so. 00:12:30
The contract period is still July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. The funding amount is $303,000 and $303,018, 00:12:34
which allows us to continue the program at current levels. No additional staff is requested and I recommend that the Board 00:12:40
approved this contract. 00:12:46
Questions Would you approve contract ID 7039? Second move by Commissioner James second by Mr. Buck to approve all in favor, 00:12:54
Opposed motion carries #4. Consider contract 1874. You task order contract for Tuberculosis Prevention and Control Program 00:12:59
Authorized chairs science and electronically. 00:13:05
Another contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment is for tuberculosis prevention and control, and it 00:13:12
helps offset county costs for that program. Of course, tuberculosis is historically one of the biggest killers in the history of 00:13:19
mankind, so this allows us to not only detect, but provide treatment and preventative measures for tuberculosis and Weld County 00:13:26
residents. The funding? Again $50,000. 00:13:33
Allows us to continue the program at current levels. No additional staff is requested and I recommend that the board approve this 00:13:41
contract. Questions. 00:13:45
Like commissioner saying second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries #5. Consider contract ID 00:13:51
7062, Contract amendment number six for Public health Emergency preparedness and response to authorized Christian Smith 00:13:56
electronics. 00:14:01
One more contract with Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment for public health emergency preparedness and response. 00:14:07
This contract dates back five plus years of. This program dates back five plus years. The purpose is to. 00:14:14
Integrate public health. 00:14:22
In emergency preparedness to help. 00:14:24
Train and prepare for disease outbreaks like pandemics or bioterrorism or emergent diseases. 00:14:27
It also allows us to prepare for dispensing of vaccines or antibiotics, fast dispensing in the event that that becomes necessary. 00:14:34
And allows funding for a staff epidemiologist. Funding contract is July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. The 00:14:43
dollar amount is $290,770, which allows us to continue the program at current levels. No additional staff as requested. 00:14:52
I recommend that the board approve this contract with CHG questions. 00:15:01
Move to Approve contract ID 7062. 00:15:06
Mr. James second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor. Aye, opposed motion carries. 00:15:10
Number six consider contract ID. 00:15:16
#7064 Statement of work for waste tire inspection program and authorized chair to sign. 00:15:19
Contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. This is a small dollar amount contract for $7554.96. 00:15:26
Which reimburses our staff for a very limited amount of time and inspecting waste tire generators, essentially making sure that 00:15:35
waste tires are disposed of properly. Obviously with that low dollar amount there's not a lot of staff time spent on this, but it 00:15:41
does allow. 00:15:46
The program to continue at current levels. No new staff is requested. Contract period July 1st, 2023 through June 30th of next 00:15:53
year. 00:15:57
I recommend that the board approve this contract. 00:16:02
Question moved second. Moved by Mr. Sean, second by commissioner. Both to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries #7. 00:16:05
Consider contract ID #7065, amendment number one to task order contract for air quality program and authorized chair science 00:16:10
middle electronics. 00:16:16
Last but not least, contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment for our Air Quality program. 00:16:23
Essentially, this allows us to operate. 00:16:29
Monitoring network to staff to conduct inspections and provide information compliance guidance with stationary sources. 00:16:36
UM issued bond permits and respond to air quality related complaints. The funding amount is $124,105.00. Again contract period 00:16:45
July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. 00:16:51
With no additional staffing requested, we will continue this program at current level. I recommend that the Board approves the 00:16:58
contract question. 00:17:02
Move to approve Second move by Mr. Brock, Second by Mr. James to approve on favor. Opposed motion carries Thanks Jason #8. 00:17:07
Consider Contract ID number 7008, Intergovernmental Agreement for Campus Police Officer Program and authorized charter Sign AIMS 00:17:13
Community College. 00:17:19
Good morning, Board of Commissioners. For the record, Sonia Cobra for County Sheriff's Office finance manager, I'm presenting 00:17:29
unbiased contract 7008. 00:17:33
The new 2023 Ames Community Contract for Campus Law Enforcement. 00:17:38
Services to you today for approval and signature. 00:17:43
The original contract has been terminated and is being replaced by the new one. The County Attorney reviewed the IGA's legal 00:17:47
language in the past around was reviewed and signed by all 5 commissioners on the 16th of May 2023. 00:17:56
Questions. 00:18:05
Would approve contract ID 7008 second, then move by Mr. James, second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor opposed motion carries. 00:18:07
Thank you, son #9. Consider Contract ID 7066 Acceptance Appeal Preliminary Award decision for 2023 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice 00:18:17
Assistance Grants Program for license plate readers and authorized Sheriff's Office to sign and submit electronically for the 00:18:25
records on your program for County Sheriff Finance Manager. I'm here today to present contract 7066, the 2023 Edward Byrne 00:18:32
Memorial Justice Assistant Grant Award. 00:18:39
To you for approval, we have been awarded 49,928 dollars. 00:18:47
Which will fund 3 stationary license plate readers. 00:18:52
For our patrol investigations department, I would like to request approval to accept the funds for the Sheriff's Office and sign 00:18:56
the acceptance of preliminary award decision. 00:19:02
The Grand Award has been reviewed by the Counties Attorney and the PA was approved by 5 commissioners on the 5th of June and the 00:19:08
period runs from October of 23 through September of 30th of 2024. 00:19:17
Questions. 00:19:27
Social proof. Second move by Mr. Buck. Second by Mr. James to approve. All in favor. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you so 00:19:28
much. Thank you so much. You have considered contract. ID 7051, Application for 2024-2025 Hazardous materials Emergency 00:19:34
Preparedness grant and authorized chairs. Sign Morning, Roy. 00:19:40
Good morning, commissioners. We're just celebrating the management office commissioners, that grant application that we have 00:19:47
before you is for hazardous materials grant. We're doing something a little bit different on this application. Typically we do an 00:19:52
annual application run from October 1st through September 30th of the following year. 00:19:57
The state is in. Umm, The money comes from the Pipeline Hazardous Materials program. It's not Homeland Security funds, so it runs 00:20:04
a little bit different. 00:20:08
The state is actually on a five year grant program. 00:20:13
And so, rather than doing an annual application every year, which the state typically does, I reached out to him to see if we 00:20:16
could do a two year grant through 25. 00:20:19
With afforded their granting for 2025 and they accepted that. So the dollar amount actually covers two years of of support to our 00:20:23
office that covers. 00:20:28
Two of the positions within our office for the hazardous materials program, training exercise program. So the the funding, the 00:20:34
funding will actually go actually helps the annual so we'll have. 00:20:40
The funding starting in October 1st. This grant will cover October 1st. 00:20:47
Umm. 00:20:51
2023 and then I'll run through the 2025 grant year also. So total total funding requested federal dollars is $414,721. 00:20:52
And our matching dollar requirement will be 103,000. 00:21:06
Umm $680.25. I wanna thank Jennifer in accounting. She helped me figure out estimated salary costs for the next two years. 00:21:10
So in a state understands that those salaries are estimated and so are the the dollar amount may change. The interesting thing 00:21:19
about this grant has been. 00:21:23
There's been leftover funds each year out of this grant that the state has been able to spend down some of its because some folks 00:21:27
are applying for it because they can't. 00:21:32
They can't afford the match dollars. 00:21:37
At the county level and so that's that's a little bit of the challenge for them. So we're able to able to apply these funds 00:21:39
towards personnel. So no, no plan to add anybody at this point but recommend the board approve the application. 00:21:46
Questions. 00:21:55
Linda proof second move by Mr. Buck second by Mr. saying to approve all in favor Aye opposed motion carries. Thank you thanks Roy 00:21:56
#11 consider settlement agreement for bridge 5413 a reconstruction project authorized chair sign Dustin and Jamie Christensen 00:22:02
chairman these are just item in the next item. 00:22:09
Relate to the same thing, which is bridge 5413 A. 00:22:17
There's a purchase of right of way and a temporary construction easement. 00:22:21
And also is the provision of damages to the. 00:22:26
Remainder of the property. In other words, we're cutting off part of their. 00:22:30
Access across northern part of their lake. 00:22:35
I'm giving them the ability to make a new driveway there if they so choose. 00:22:38
So with this settlement agreement, we've called it that. 00:22:43
Only because there was. 00:22:48
The threat of condemnation, that's just something that they wanted to do, something to take advantage of the tax consequences. 00:22:50
The second item, which is number 12, is a temporary access and construction easement. 00:22:58
Agreement that happens during construction, so. 00:23:04
There will be coordination between. 00:23:08
Christiansen's because they're going to be building. 00:23:11
During this time so that they can get access to their property, so coordination between our crews that are constructing the 00:23:14
bridge. 00:23:18
And they're people who were constructing this stuff on their property. So that's what that agreement does. It makes it so that we 00:23:23
work together. 00:23:26
And use reasonable thoughts in terms of getting their access taken care of. 00:23:31
So we'd recommend approval of the amount for the settlement agreement as. 00:23:38
$720,000 that includes everything, including the damages. 00:23:42
OK. 00:23:48
Well, any questions? 00:23:49
OK. 00:23:50
Was the first second. 00:23:52
Been moved by Commissioner Jessica, by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries and then #13 or number 00:23:53
sorry #12 is considered temporary access and construction easement agreement for Bridge 5413 a reconstruction project and 00:23:59
authorized chair assigned Dustin and Jamie Christensen. 00:24:04
And then hold your mail on that one, is that included in it? It's included all it's included. OK, so motion to do I have a motion 00:24:11
to approve this one Second. Second by Commissioner James to approve on favor. Aye, opposed motion carries. 00:24:18
#13 Consider contract ID 7050 concurrence letter for service area, foreign trade zone, program authorized, carry side. 00:24:25
Good morning, Cheryl Patelli Finance. Upstreet Colorado has requested that the Board of County Commissioners approved the Attached 00:24:33
Service Area concurrence letter as part of its assuming administrative oversight of the Foreign Trade Zone Program. By signing 00:24:41
this letter with the OC acknowledges that the World Trade Center will be able to apply to the Foreign Trade Zone Board. 00:24:48
For authority to service sites located within Weld County and that the zone will be made available on a uniform basis. 00:24:56
To companies within Weld County. 00:25:05
This request was approved by all 5 County commissioners via a May 30th, 2023 pass around and we recommend your approval. 00:25:07
OK. 00:25:16
Questions. 00:25:17
Just a quick comment, so the way this is described here as you probably have gotten letters, make sure that we have manufacturing 00:25:18
here in Colorado that they're not being double taxed, which is certainly the case in some of these sounds now. 00:25:24
So with that I I moved out first. 00:25:30
Second, moved by Commissioner Singh, second by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor aye opposed Motion carries. Concludes new 00:25:34
business with planning. Number one, consider applications for small Business Incentive Program. Authorized release of Economic 00:25:40
Development Trust Funds Tier 3 International Farms LLC. Rd. Trucking, Inc. 00:25:46
OK. Good morning, commissioners. Tom Parker, Department of Planning Services. 00:25:54
I'm pleased to bring forth another Small Business Incentive Program application for your consideration. This is for International 00:25:57
Farms, LLC. This business is located just West of Rottenberg on County Road 6. It was successful in going through the changes zone 00:26:04
process and a site plan review process. 00:26:10
What's interesting about this particular application is the first one that to fall under tier three of our program. As you all 00:26:17
know, we have those 3 tiers and and so this met all the eligibility requirements for Tier 3. 00:26:24
I went through all the application. 00:26:31
They doubted all their eyes crossed their Tees. 00:26:34
It meets everything, according to the Small Business Development Center as well. The award amount here is in a total of $40,000. 00:26:36
I would recommend your approval and I'd be happy to answer any questions. 00:26:45
Questions second. 00:26:50
Like Commissioner Shane, second by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor. Aye, opposed motion carries. 00:26:53
Thanks, Tom. It's good to see those continue to happen. Absolutely. Several more in the queue. OK #2 consider decision, the 00:26:59
Department of Planning Services Director assessing Rd. impact fees associated with building permits, CNN22-0131, Stephen Wells. 00:27:07
OK, commissioners. Tom Parker, Department of Planning Services. So the resolution before you this morning. 00:27:16
This will consideration of an appeal of Rd. impact fees associated with the Crow Creek Event Center. This Event Center is located 00:27:23
east of Hwy. 392 and north of County Road 74. 00:27:28
The Crow Creek Event Center was approved under US R22. 00:27:35
Our Dash 0035 on April 19th, 2023 and the structure associated with this Event Center. 00:27:39
Is with building permit number CMN 22. 00:27:47
Dash 0131. 00:27:51
Department of Planning Services are responsible for collecting impact fees on all new construction. 00:27:53
And those fees are established under chapter five of the Weld County Code. 00:27:58
On May 17th, the owners, Representative Hannah Dutro, with that professional, submitted a letter of appeal to my attention, which 00:28:03
is authorized under Chapter 20, Section 20-1-60H, as summarized in my memo to the Commissioners, the only grounds for an appeal. 00:28:11
To the directors and appeal of the land use type used to calculate the road impact fee. 00:28:20
There are a total of 10 land use categories. The land use category used for this Event Center was shopping center slash 00:28:26
commercial. Obviously this is not a shopping center, but it is commercial in nature. 00:28:33
And going through and reviewing the USSR application materials on file. 00:28:41
Definitely is commercial in nature. 00:28:47
I I do understand that, you know, this Event Center is used by a lot of charities and nonprofits. 00:28:51
Uh, but like I said before, the applications also states that, you know, this facility could be open for wedding events and 00:28:58
private parties of the like. 00:29:03
In 2021, the impact fee schedule in chapter five was updated following a study prepared by Duncan and Associates. During this 00:29:08
update, staff added Event Center within the definition of shopping center slash commercial. 00:29:15
We added this because we have approved several. 00:29:23
Event centers like Crow Creek over the last several years. 00:29:26
Examples of similar event centers include USR 150028. 00:29:29
USSR 190033. 00:29:34
And you SR20-0035 staff has been consistent in applying the shopping center commercial land use category on all event centers. 00:29:37
Following my review of the fees, I upheld the departments assessment and determined that the correct land use category was used to 00:29:47
calculate the road impact fee for the Crow Creek Event Center. 00:29:52
On May 26, Miss Dutro appealed my decision to the Board of County Commissioners. Under Chapter 2, Section 2-4-10. The Board of 00:29:58
County Commissioners have two options available to you under the code. 00:30:05
Option number one is to uphold my decision, in which case the fee shall be paid in the concordance with the land use category used 00:30:13
to calculate the fees for this facility. Or option #2. The applicant can apply for an independent fee calculation study as 00:30:19
described under section 20-1-80. 00:30:26
The intent of the independent fee analysis is to determine appropriate impact fees for land uses that are not typically or not 00:30:33
typical of the generalized land uses listed in the impact fee schedule. 00:30:39
It shall not be a grounds for an independent fee analysis that the initial occupant of the development will not generate as much 00:30:46
impact. 00:30:50
As is assumed by the fee schedules, but that unique and permanent features are the development result in lower impacts over the 00:30:55
long term. 00:30:59
I I do have one correction to the to the resolution which clipped to the board was very quick to go ahead and change. But we are 00:31:06
really just kind of a focusing on the road impact fee this morning I believe the resolution had originally stated an amount of. 00:31:15
30 some $1000 but the actual Rd. impact fee is $25,992. 00:31:25
This really concludes my remarks and I'm happy to answer any questions. 00:31:33
That's true. 00:31:39
As the Commissioner, ordinary discussion very briefly about this. 00:31:41
Hello. 00:31:47
Probably be that. 00:31:49
Put on that public comment and. 00:31:50
How much? 00:31:52
I think we do. 00:31:54
You should. 00:31:56
OK, so let me hold my comments after public comment then I'm going to certainly make a motion to modify this. 00:31:57
And approve the appeal for several reasons, and I'll give those after the public comment. 00:32:05
Hmm. 00:32:10
You should hear from the intelligent need to hear from the applicant, right, Tim, Come on up. 00:32:11
Good morning, commissioners. Tim Taylor with our Professionals, 3050 67th Ave. I'm representing Mr. Wells. 00:32:21
In my request to ask the board to. 00:32:27
Review the determination of the planning Director on the road impact fee. 00:32:31
Land use category. 00:32:37
Well, we certainly agree with Mr. Parco that the land use category states in the Definition Event Center. 00:32:39
We believe that this, these, these categories are. 00:32:47
Very broad and. 00:32:51
Throw everything into it and and. 00:32:52
We believe that the, uh, the land use of this, since it is, it's a rural facility, it's a rule Event Center, it's for wedding, 00:32:56
it's a wedding venue, they'll they'll have hayrides, similar stuff to that. 00:33:04
Um, we believe that it, it fits more into the commercial ad category, which includes Agra Entertainment. 00:33:12
I don't know that. 00:33:19
How many people have driven by these corn mazes during October? And there's a. 00:33:21
Significant load impact. You know there's there's cars lined up all day from 10:00 in the morning till 10 at night. This this 00:33:28
Event Center allows 200 people. 00:33:33
So it's. 00:33:38
It's a small. It's a small facility. 00:33:40
And it and it accesses directly onto Hwy. 392. So the travel route for this facility would be Hwy. 85 to Lucerne. 00:33:43
392 to the Event Center. There's really very little impact. 00:33:53
To the roads of 1 county because of the location of this facility. 00:33:57
We believe that that the the road impact fee. 00:34:04
For the. 00:34:08
Egg, commercial or commercial agriculture fits that fits that category. 00:34:10
It it certainly isn't a. 00:34:15
Budweiser Event Center It isn't a a Union Colony Event Center. It isn't an island Grove. It's a small facility. Again, nature. 00:34:18
And certainly fits the the commercial lag. 00:34:29
Description. 00:34:33
Um, it just happens to be called an Event Center. So we understood Mr. Parker's decision. It's in the definition we see that. 00:34:34
But we don't believe that that category. 00:34:45
Is. 00:34:49
It's it's. It's got too many things thrown into it that don't fit, so we'd request that if it just be. 00:34:51
Um, adjusted to the to the AG commercial. 00:34:58
Land use. 00:35:04
OK. And we have one other thing I'd also ask that. 00:35:05
Part of the fee impact fees associated with the building permit be categorized as that. 00:35:09
Because there there are multiple. 00:35:16
Alright, what's it called? Tom? It's family. It's the What's the other thing? 00:35:18
The other. 00:35:23
Category the other land use, there's a there's an impact fee that's the capital facilities, facilities impact fee. 00:35:25
So it it it follows the same categories as the road impact fees. 00:35:33
So. 00:35:38
We'd like it to. 00:35:39
Encompass all of that. 00:35:41
And for assessing a road impact fee then let's truly take some sort of definition or or assessment of what the impact on the road 00:36:13
might actually be. And you and I had this conversation on on Friday and we can I think with a simple traffic study and and I'm not 00:36:19
necessarily proposing that for for this particular instance. 00:36:25
But for instances in the future we can we can truly get an accurate assessment of what the impact to the roadway will will be. 00:36:31
Yeah. 00:36:39
Yes, Sir. And to answer your question, I think that is the purpose behind the independent fee study analysis. 00:36:40
Is to actually get a transportation planner or traffic engineer to go through and really determine what those true impacts are. 00:36:49
And if it if it is true that there's not going to be a lot of impacts that are generated from this facility, then as the code 00:36:55
states, then we can go through and review that and that might actually lower the fee. 00:37:02
We've done a couple of independent fee calculation studies in the past, so I I just wanted to point that out. That's probably the 00:37:09
proper process to go through instead of trying to determine the best category here. 00:37:16
But certainly. 00:37:25
Yeah, it's the Board's purview here. Thank you. Continue on that. Mister Nabors is proposing a certain classification and then I 00:37:27
appreciate the request. I don't feel that, but I appreciate the request. I I with this option #2 that I see before us here to 00:37:34
overturn the director's decision or can direct the applicant to apply for an independent fee calculation study. 00:37:41
According to the procedures outlined in their code. 00:37:49
All of our code, that's good. That independent tree calculation study then does that become the arbiter of the actual fee 00:37:52
assessed? 00:37:55
That becomes the determinant, yes. So staff will then review that study and then base the fee on on the actual impacts. What that 00:38:00
fee would be, it's hard to tell until that studies done and it could be it could be the same amount here or it could be 00:38:08
substantially less than that. And then of course there's also another process in the code that if staff for some reason came to an 00:38:15
impasse or or or the applicant disagreed with staff. 00:38:23
Running through that particular study, that can also be appealed back to the Board of County Commissioners. 00:38:30
OK. So I have two questions. I'm done. Thanks. First one is, So what is something, what is something, what is something like that 00:38:37
study? What does that cost? 00:38:41
Well, there's a nominal application fee, but whatever the cost is, is to prepare that. Again, it could be a transportation planner 00:38:45
or a traffic engineer to do that study. So there is some cost. I'll be completely honest with you, but. 00:38:52
That I can. I can answer that question. It's anywhere from. 00:39:00
2000 to $5000. 00:39:04
OK. 00:39:07
And then the second question I've got and I've always been a little bit confused about about this. 00:39:08
I struggle with the fact that there were Basin Rd. impact fees based on a kind of building or a size of a building and not what 00:39:16
the actual impact of the roads are. I've always struggled with that. But the second part of that is where does World Counties 00:39:22
really I struggle with where is well counties really impact fees if the access is on a state highway that's that's the other thing 00:39:28
that I that I'm just not quite sure I understand it's. 00:39:33
It's not. It's not. It's not an impact. It's not a access that's off of a County Road, it's off of a state highway. So what is 00:39:39
Weld County's impact in this? 00:39:43
I think, Commissioner, answer your first question again when we went through with the Duncan Associates study that was recently 00:39:48
updated. 00:39:52
On around 2021, I know we've had some conversations around that, but our responsibility is to follow exactly the feed schedule 00:39:56
that's that's in the code right now. And so as it's written, it's based off square footage that fee is. So yes, the bigger the 00:40:04
building, the bigger the fee when it, it depends on which land use category there is there. So it doesn't say if you're generating 00:40:12
200 trips, the fee shall be this or through generating 10 trips the fee shall be this. 00:40:19
You know, I'm definitely, as we're going through the budget process heading into next year, we could look at fees and those types 00:40:27
of things. 00:40:31
But the second part of your question too, does this really come out on a County Road? No, it's well north of County Road 74 and 00:40:36
off of the state highway. But again you know when we're assessing these fees, it doesn't say in there if you're accessing a state 00:40:44
highway there should be no Rd. impact fee applied, just says Rd. impact fees are are. 00:40:52
Assessed on all new construction so and so and Tom, you and I have had this conversation a number of times over the years. I could 00:41:00
have a huge game building that doesn't generate any traffic and I could have a really small building that has a whole lot of 00:41:08
people coming in and out all the time. And so I struggle with, I struggle with the size of the building determining the road 00:41:15
impact fee. I just always have because it seems to me we ought to be based on a road impact fee somehow based on what the actual. 00:41:23
And actually it'll be the road because I mean I could have a I could have a 200,000 square foot building, but. 00:41:30
Pretty much as as. 00:41:37
Two trips of a going in and out of that thing versus versus a you know. 00:41:39
A very small for example pot shop for example, that's gotten 9000 people a day coming in so they get back fees are not should not 00:41:44
be based on the size of the building, they should be based on the road impact. But interesting comparison there Mr. Frank. 00:41:51
So. 00:42:00
Gently the last couple of years. That's what the Duncan study said, that just now Commission will vote against the increased 00:42:01
impact fees. 00:42:04
For that exact reason. So I'm glad we're paying attention now as far as actual impact on them, that's exactly. 00:42:07
What we should be doing and there's ways to do that directly. 00:42:14
Without voting techniques. So I I think a fee in this instance is really just a chance on business. 00:42:17
So I not only do I think we should lower it for everyone. 00:42:23
Based on the actual impact of the roads, maybe we should get rid of it altogether and address it in a different way, but in this 00:42:27
instance I. 00:42:31
I think you're right. 00:42:36
I'm not saying, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have impact fees. I'm saying that that it should be based on the on the impact 00:42:38
that this facility was having, you know, was having tons and tons of traffic every day. Yeah, we ought to be charging it based on 00:42:44
based on the Internet right now. It's not done that way and it goes into communicable which is wrong. 00:42:50
Nothing. So I went I'll move to approve this as far as modifying and to approve this appeal for this particular. 00:42:58
Charity of isn't it? It's still could impact the world That's so. In other words what's your what's your degree is to appeal to go 00:43:39
to do the independent fee study. 00:43:42
Because that was our two options. I think we just approve it. I'm gonna make a motion to approve it. 00:43:47
Well, I'm not sure what you what you want this appeal is either to deny the appeal or approve the appeal and go to an independent 00:43:52
fee study. That's that's two options, correct? 00:43:57
It is their proof. 00:44:03
You know it's modified in this the modified the decision the Director of Planning department. 00:44:06
Um, and to approve the appeal to go to the study. Is that correct? Is that the only two options? That's correct, ma'am. That's the 00:44:11
motion. Can I ask a question? 00:44:16
So. 00:44:21
I the way I read this is that uh that that you have the. 00:44:25
The appeal of the land use category is what we're appealing. 00:44:29
Because. 00:44:35
It seems like we're. 00:44:38
We could have gone directly to the. We could have gone directly to the. 00:44:41
To the. 00:44:47
Road impact fee independent fee calculation. 00:44:48
Without having to come to the board to ask for that, I feel like we should have been able to say hey. 00:44:52
We don't agree with the land use that Mister Parker. Parker was determined. We're asking for this and the board said yes, we agree 00:44:58
with that land use and not. 00:45:03
Have to go through. 00:45:09
The independent fee calculation, but the other thing with independent fee calculations, with having to appeal to the board is 00:45:11
that. 00:45:14
The building permits been available for six weeks now. 00:45:20
We go in and do another month of in in you know for an independent fee study scheduled with the board scheduled with you know for 00:45:24
three months out on a building permit. 00:45:28
That you know not only is, you know. 00:45:33
It costs money to do that, but but the time that we're not able to actually get a building permit. 00:45:38
Is because we're appealing the fee. The way I read it is that we have the that the commissioners have the ability to. 00:45:44
Change the land use category so it doesn't have to go to. I'm looking to the accounting attorney. So if it specifically says that 00:45:53
our code and Event Center goes in this category, is that something that is appealable? 00:45:58
I guess it would be. 00:46:04
I think it is OK. Thank you. You have the ability to appeal. 00:46:05
The category that it goes into. OK, that makes more sense to me then. 00:46:10
Hey, you know the. 00:46:15
I mean here issue which is. 00:46:17
You should base the fee on what the. 00:46:20
Actual impacts are. 00:46:22
That. 00:46:25
Is something that could be done for everyone. 00:46:27
But they're gonna have to come up with an independent. 00:46:29
Study to show what the impacts really are so you're costing everyone. 00:46:33
That that amount. 00:46:38
I mean the the fees are based on a national study. 00:46:41
That works out these types of uses and the general. 00:46:45
And so that it's not specific as to. 00:46:50
Exactly what it is that this. 00:46:54
Use. Is going to be generating the type of. 00:46:56
Activity. 00:46:59
Well and and and here's what I I'm just gonna be honest here. Here's where I struggle with this. So we've got an Event Center that 00:47:02
maybe does an event every other weekend or whatever put in the same thing as a as a shopping center that people go in out of all 00:47:08
day every day. So the the use doesn't seem like we've counted in the light use. It does seem like it's more of an ad commercial 00:47:14
type of use to me. 00:47:21
I think the fault of, excuse me, I think the fault of us, says Aggro and the client. 00:47:27
And when we did the USSR, we named the thing the wrong thing. 00:47:34
We named it an Event Center. We didn't named it. 00:47:38
I don't know a hayride facility. 00:47:42
We will have gotten into the Event Center. It wouldn't have been that. We called it the Wells Crow Creek Event Center. 00:47:46
We named it something, but that's not the reality of. 00:47:52
What it is? 00:47:56
Well, and I'm. I feel like we're in a conundrum. Neither one of these choices is. 00:47:58
I'm sure we can do something now. I I don't know if we can do something now. The options are you? No. Bruce just said that they 00:48:04
could appeal the type of land use, which is what they're actually appealing. Is that what we're doing? But that's not what the 00:48:10
resolution is. The resolution is not written that we just go ahead and make another motion. We can have the clerk type. 00:48:15
Motion yet. So I'll, I'll go until my motion. I will resend my motion and I'll make a new motion that we actually follow through 00:48:22
with, with a new resolution that can be probably typed up right now that we change the use. 00:48:29
Uh, since that's what the applicant clearly wants to heal, is he wants to change her from Event Center to a commercial. 00:48:37
Can somebody send that one? We'll have it written up. 00:48:44
Line. 00:48:49
I don't know if we could do that with you once you set it up so we can have yeah. I'll second it so we can discuss. OK I I because 00:48:51
I I don't agree with you. I don't disagree rather with the intent. I agree with the intent. I just want to make sure that we are 00:48:55
locked up and doing what's within our. 00:49:00
Within what we can do? 00:49:06
There they are. I think you can. I mean the problem is. 00:49:08
You're making a category that. What about the next one and the next one after that? I mean everyone of them. 00:49:11
Is. 00:49:19
Has some differences. 00:49:20
And so you know the typically with categories like that you're doing it in a legislative sense. 00:49:22
And saying, yeah, is this a best category? Is this the best category for that type of use? 00:49:29
I mean, that's the problem with saying it's an appeal of the category. 00:49:36
Because. 00:49:43
It sets a precedent for the next one. So I feel like we're at a command room because I think the resolution doesn't apply to the 00:49:44
issue that. 00:49:47
We're trying to struggle with the decision, so. 00:49:51
I don't know if we can continue until Wednesday to have a correct resolution to. 00:49:54
You know, we could amend the resolution that we want just because it's written that way. You can change, you could amend the 00:49:59
resolution. OK. So my, I guess my other question, Tom is for example, these AG entertainment type things whether it's. 00:50:05
You know, whether it's whether it's the the one, the pumpkin, you know, the pump, the different part of those are those 00:50:11
categorized as egg. 00:50:15
Commercial. Now I believe the way that we've assessed event centers is under the shopping center, no, I'm talking, I'm talking 00:50:20
like, I'm talking Clippers like Critters is a little different like. 00:50:25
You know Anderson Farms, Miller Farms of 19, I mean those all have use by special review permits as well, but like a corn maze and 00:50:32
stuff, again, we're just talking about the building itself, so not not necessarily the use so. 00:50:38
So agree, tainment might be a good use, but again, the impact fees just applied to the buildings themselves. 00:50:46
Now, so you could have you could have something like. You could have something like Chryslers. 00:50:52
Right, That's got a ton of people. 00:50:58
And doesn't even have a building exactly. There would be no room in that case. We might do like an improvements agreement, Rd. 00:51:00
maintenance agreement, those types of things that are usually associated with those to help address traffic concerns there. But 00:51:07
yes, I mean you could you could have a big facility and or a big use and not have very many structures or any structures at all. 00:51:15
I have the definition of agricultural commercial if that would help. It's it means for the purpose of this chapter agricultural 00:51:23
processing facilities for producer, livestock intensive factory style production of animals and animal products commercial use is 00:51:28
serving. 00:51:33
The agricultural sector. 00:51:39
But does not include Office uses. 00:51:41
Typical uses include feedlots, dairies, factory farms, sales of agricultural equipment and supplies. 00:51:43
Commercial agricultural storage facilities, Agra entertainment facilities IE roping arenas, corn mazes and etcetera and similar 00:51:49
uses. 00:51:54
We feel like we fit in that aggro tainment facilities, roping arenas, corn mazes and similar uses. 00:51:59
And I'll just say something for sure. Other people. Other folks. 00:52:12
Applying for this, they can appeal or they can come through the ad commercial process. So we wouldn't be creating a new process 00:52:16
for understand what the attorney just said for just one person. 00:52:21
I'm struggling with that's the right category either though. But I mean the very last thing you said 90% of that definition didn't 00:52:26
have anything to do with it. No, with the aggregate, the aggregate entertainment facilities, roping arenas, corn mazes. 00:52:33
You know that's those are events. Those are events I. 00:52:40
They are, they are but but that but those kind of events. So now we're talking like double check phones out there or the double 00:52:43
check arena, right, but. 00:52:48
And those have considerably more Rd. impact. They do, but then but they're not. They're not a wedding face. I mean, there's a 00:52:54
difference between actually ad stuff and versus the Event Center that's doing, that's doing weddings and and and whatever other. 00:53:02
Wagon rides, which is part of their. 00:53:12
Part of their. 00:53:16
Thing is, they have, they have horse, horse rides and. 00:53:17
Hmm. 00:53:21
Wagon rides for for people. That's what they've been doing. That's what they started with. 00:53:22
Allow me to ask questions here, period. I'm sorry, Commissioner Bucks. 00:53:28
Question. Could we continue this and consider? 00:53:34
What is an AG commercial facility? Because again, I think we can all agree that the Duncan study is very flawed. 00:53:37
And I think we should revisit it and do something better. 00:53:43
I feel like we're moving on the fly. I I feel uncomfortable with. 00:53:47
Trying to figure this out when I think we need to. 00:53:51
Just continue until Wednesday. Well, here's here's what I Here's what I know. 00:53:54
Pretty sure that I know and that is. 00:54:00
Will impact the $25,000 on something like this is completely, that's just that's how it works. So I don't know how we fix it. I 00:54:04
don't know how we get there without setting some kind of a precedent that impact future things. But that certainly isn't going to 00:54:09
be based on the use of that of that facility. 00:54:15
Mr. Chair, I think when you said too, it's off of a. 00:54:23
US Hwy. 392, it's not a County Road. So I'm again, like I said, I feel like we're trying to make a decision and we're in a comp 00:54:27
quandary and I think we need to just continue it until Wednesday. 00:54:33
What do we expect to get between now and Wednesday? A definition of where we're at and apply. I think we need at least a week 00:54:39
because right now we're what we're asking if we. 00:54:44
Based on this resolution, the only thing to be a lot of time my three months to get traffic engineering, but that's very 00:54:49
expensive. I think there's a way we can do this without stocking an independent study to everyone to get a professional 00:54:54
transportation. I mean, like I said, this second study has been flawed from the beginning. There's a difference between. 00:55:00
Doing this legislatively. 00:55:06
And looking at it legislatively and then doing on a piece meal basis, on every appeal that comes through you're going to change 00:55:09
the code. You need to change the code you do and if it's wrong, OK, we'll fix it right. But we need to do that legislatively. You 00:55:14
can't do this by. 00:55:20
Continuing in a week and then determining what this appeal should be. OK, So I mean, I I think The thing is. 00:55:25
Tim is asking and saying that the building is being put in the wrong category and I I get that. I mean, I I understand his appeal 00:55:34
and I think it's a good appeal pursuant to the code. 00:55:42
Now the question is, is it in fact in the wrong category? 00:55:50
And and maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I don't know. And I I think what Tom is saying is. 00:55:55
But their way to do it to make it more specific as to. 00:56:01
What actually is going to happen there is to do an independent fee calculation and that's the reason why we put that in there is 00:56:05
for someone to say, hey, that doesn't apply to me because I go out on the state highway and I. 00:56:11
Do these other things. 00:56:18
I mean, can I ask the applicant, shall we have some? If we don't do this today, we need some time. If we want to change the code 00:56:21
to accurately reflect what is AG commercial, that's going to take at least what Tom six weeks. 00:56:28
Six months? What? No, you gotta have three reading process on the thing, right? But that's that's right. Take six months. Yeah. 00:56:36
And we've done it pretty fast before. You would need to redo the the study because the study creates the Nexus between the fee 00:56:44
that's being charged. 00:56:50
And the use. OK so. 00:56:55
Hmm. 00:57:01
So back to the Afghan. I'm sorry, what's the fastest? We've got a code change through that. We've we've done this pretty quickly. 00:57:02
The commissioner saying you heard what Bruce said, you've got to redo the study. They're asking for a change of use so we can do 00:57:09
that within our code now. 00:57:13
But I don't want to. Asking for is to say he's saying unappealing the category that you're putting it into, right? 00:57:18
And so you can make that determination. You could say, yeah, it should be in this category rather than in that category, mean that 00:57:26
I think is a valid appeal. 00:57:31
And and I'm just saying once you do that. 00:57:38
Similarly situated. 00:57:42
Event Center centers will come in and say the same thing. Then I do. I renew the motion. I think I made the motion. Alright, let's 00:57:44
do that. Other people have a chance to appeal. 00:57:49
Right. They can appeal the decision. Why don't we just do that as it's in our code now and change this use to add commercial. So 00:57:54
I'll renew the motion something will second it. 00:57:58
And you already seconded that already second, so I withdraw my second will you regard with helping you. 00:58:04
OK. 00:58:11
That we're granting. 00:58:12
Mr. Nader's appeal. 00:58:13
To act commercial. 00:58:16
Changes. 00:58:17
To change the category housing, I'll second while I share the county attorneys. 00:58:19
We got a specific instance which I am, I am sympathetic to and I we got a broader consequence which I'm concerned with. But for 00:58:26
that case I will second the motion. OK. So I'm just going to make one comment on this. So if you if you're looking at something 00:58:31
like this, right? 00:58:36
To me, and commercial is the more correct place for the category than the shopping center. It just is, yes. So I'm going to 00:58:42
support the motion. 00:58:46
OK. 00:58:51
Any other comments? 00:58:53
Do we need a little cold vote? 00:58:57
OK. All in favor of. 00:59:00
The appeal to change the category from. 00:59:02
Shopping center too much commercial to agricultural, commercial and commercial. 00:59:07
OK. All in favor. Aye. Opposed motion carries. Quick question. That being said, I do think that we ought to. Tom, I'm gonna have 00:59:13
one more on your plate besides the besides the solar one. You need to take a look at the at the code. Not that we shouldn't charge 00:59:21
fees. Not that we should. We just need to I think and we've had this conversation numerous times. We just need to be we need to be 00:59:28
charging people for what the actual impact is. We need to be covering costs here instead of just. 00:59:35
I don't know. So size of the building I struggle with and we made these changes back a few years ago when with the whole oil and 00:59:43
gas on the way, we were doing that and just based on what our role in that was. And so I just think we need to take a look at it 00:59:50
some point and just just because we're directing our staff, I also think it should not go into communal fund which is basically it 00:59:57
should be like an invoice if they pay something there should be a direct benefit to that vote or whatever they're on. 01:00:03
It should not go into a large fund that it gets distributed to wherever it's it's not right the way this is. 01:00:10
Or on the back end, That's a different conversation. 01:00:17
Conversation, Sir, if we're going to be looking at the Duncan study. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just. 01:00:21
My concern of our Lawrence, I, I think that the intent of the board is clear, but I want to make sure with the the clerk to the 01:00:25
board because basically we're asking you to spitball a new resolution. 01:00:30
That we will appropriately have to. 01:00:35
To to prove I can't, Tom and I will work on it together and then we'll have that so that it's on the consent agenda, on the 01:00:38
consent agenda next. 01:00:43
Was today's Monday through Wednesday? Thank you. OK. 01:00:48
Well, Commissioners, thank you. Thanks for your able to make it work. I want to thank Mr. Parko for for. 01:00:53
Processing our request and and the board for for approving it. Thank you very much. 01:01:00
Alright, that concludes planning public comment. 01:01:05
During public comment this morning. 01:01:09
Come on up. 01:01:13
Good morning. My name is Steve Keats, I. 01:01:31
First of all, I don't remember if I mentioned this last time I was here, but we we have a free bus conference in the state from 01:01:38
June 1st to August 31st. 01:01:44
And the buses are free. 01:01:51
Also, I liked it. 01:01:54
Say something else. Last week there was a meeting that I was surprised at. I had a meeting at the Ridgeway and but I was there 01:01:58
early, so I went through the grieving Tribune and there was some information that there was going to be meaningful and the state. 01:02:07
Some state representatives were gonna be there and and so I stayed at the library because it started around 5530 and about 7730 01:02:16
and they did a presentation and then we broke up in groups and there was three groups, trans, transportation, oil and gas and 01:02:24
health. 01:02:32
And I forgot the other group. 01:02:40
And and guess what group I went into? 01:02:42
Trying to get now. 01:02:48
Yeah. 01:02:49
Situation You're right, but anyway. 01:02:52
And the biggest group was transportation, right? More people and we have about 2530 people there and. 01:02:56
But the largest we've broken groups was transportation and it was very interesting too that I've been saying that others they say 01:03:06
why we need to get around. 01:03:13
Better and all that. And we need better public transportation if it's. 01:03:21
In Greeley Evans area but also there's mentioned too about having a regional so we get people going out because of the growth and 01:03:27
because the growth of Weld County Lamar County and. 01:03:35
That we could have a regional up here like you know, RTD, RTA, whatever big that'd be able to get around for work, for medical, 01:03:43
for events and things like that, so. 01:03:51
That's not a kind of and they say they're going to have another meeting sometime late summer and hopefully they'll let people know 01:04:00
this time. And I did recommend that they invite the city of Greeley, Evans and the county Commissioners of World. So hopefully you 01:04:08
will give it that they will know when they're going to have it and invite you guys. 01:04:16
Ohh also we got a present after the presentation of the meeting. They gave us a gift card to. Was very nice of him. 01:04:27
So I'm going to the next one up to. 01:04:37
I agree that we need to work on a regional system now because of the growth in world environment, county and people need to get 01:04:41
back and forth as well as. 01:04:47
The. 01:04:53
With military veterans for the medical healing. 01:04:55
OK. Or even out for further, UH, we don't have a VA clinic here and it's all in Loveland and try to talk to VA Well, that's like 01:05:00
talking to the federal government, but we won't get into that. And my last one is? 01:05:09
That we're talking about. 01:05:19
Yeah, earlier. 01:05:24
Whatever they were doing and in this week, there's a long enforcement tomorrow and VA Veterans Memorial and the Green City 01:05:28
government they. 01:05:34
When they were putting the sprinkler system, they're putting different kind of grass. They have corrected some of that, but. 01:05:43
In front, uh, between the sidewalk and the curb. There's still that ugly looking grass that they have and I told him about it, but 01:05:52
it's still, it's in front of in front of the. 01:05:59
Veterans Memorial as well as the Law Enforcement Memorial, and it still kind of looks ugly even though you got the regular grass 01:06:07
on the other side of the sidewalk. But on this side between the road and the sidewalk, it's still. 01:06:13
Looks kind of bad and I was wondering if you guys could recommend that they put the best grass that's the city agreement issues, 01:06:20
but you have that memorial there for law enforcement. And I just think that we all places you would make it look good, but I just 01:06:28
thought I'd bring that up too. Thank you. Any other public comment? 01:06:36
OK. Seeing none, we will adjourn and we do have a public hearing, so we'll give you time to. 01:06:45
Restart the computer and we'll do that quick. 01:06:52
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Join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:07:54
To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with 00:07:58
liberty and justice for all. 00:08:03
Good morning. It's Monday, June 12th, Callaway, the Board of County Commissioners, Roll call please. 00:08:11
Scratching Kevin Ross. 00:08:15
Harrison Payback? 00:08:18
Which reflected for our five county commissioners, President, Commissioner Ross, you. 00:08:21
Well, it's approval of minutes of May 24th, 2023 second. 00:08:25
And then move back to Mr. Buck. Second back to Mr. James who approve. All in favor. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries number city 00:08:30
agenda. We have any amendments? No Who the consent agenda. Items 1-2 and three under the consent agenda are partial vacation. Does 00:08:35
anybody want any of those polled? 00:08:41
Kathleen Donohue promotion to approve the consent agenda will be approved consent agenda. 00:08:48
Second then moved back to Mr. James, Second by Mr. Buck to approve all in favor. Opposed motion carries Commissioner coordinate, 00:08:52
reports Commissioner Singh. 00:08:57
Ohh. 00:09:03
I'll speak more next Monday, I'll. 00:09:05
This book, Nothing to report. Everything's good. 00:09:08
Same good move on the warranty. 00:09:11
General Warrants June 7 and June 9th, 2023. 00:09:15
Who can approve General Lawrence? 00:09:19
Would like Mr. James second like Mr. Brooks to approve all in favor opposed motion carries goods. 00:09:22
Number one would be 23001201 Enforcement Elevator Modernization Facilities Department. 00:09:28
Good morning. Caroline Geiser, Purchasing. 00:09:38
Purchasing received two bids. 00:09:42
We will be there in the Vincent to the. 00:09:44
Facilities department for their review. 00:09:47
We will be back on June 26th for approval. 00:09:50
Take Questions #2 Presented B 230-0122 N Jail security. 00:09:54
Providence Senior Replacement Facilities Department. 00:10:00
Purchasing received one bid. 00:10:04
It has been sent to the facilities department for review and we will be back on June 26th for approval. 00:10:06
Good questions. OK. Includes bids, we'll move the new business, #1 considered contract, ID 736, task order contract for community 00:10:13
tobacco initiatives. 00:10:18
Project. 00:10:23
Amendment 35, Tobacco use prevention and substance education and authorized shares of science have been electronically. Good 00:10:24
morning, Jason. 00:10:27
Good morning, Commissioners. 00:10:31
This is a. 00:10:34
Renewal for contract for tobacco use prevention and cessation program that our department has had for several years. The funding 00:10:36
comes from state tobacco excise taxes in the amount of $330,134. 00:10:44
This will allow us to continue the program at current levels, so no additional staff is requested and I recommend that the board 00:10:52
approve the contract. 00:10:56
The. 00:11:00
Persons. 00:11:01
Move to approve second move like Mr. Brooks, Second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor Aye opposed motion carries #2. 00:11:02
Consider contract ID 7038, Amendment #1, the task order contract for Women's Wellness Connection. 00:11:09
Cancer prevention and early detection program and authorized shares finance mid electronically. 00:11:17
And another contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. This is a great program that provides. 00:11:23
Funding to allow underserved women in Colorado those without insurance for those that are underinsured to. 00:11:29
UM have training for breast and cervical cancer. The contract dates are July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. The 00:11:37
funding is $57,169 which. 00:11:43
Allows us to continue the program. 00:11:50
At current levels, no new staffing is requested. I recommend that the board approve this contract. Move to approve. 00:11:53
The new bike Mr. Buck second by commissioner saying to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries #3 consider contract ID 00:12:01
7039, task order contract for immunization and core services program and authorized charter science and electronically. 00:12:08
This is really, this funding allows us to really provide the core services at the health department. This this is immunization 00:12:16
funding if you think of the vaccines that we all receive beginning at birth, all the way up through high school. 00:12:22
This funding provides those services so. 00:12:30
The contract period is still July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. The funding amount is $303,000 and $303,018, 00:12:34
which allows us to continue the program at current levels. No additional staff is requested and I recommend that the Board 00:12:40
approved this contract. 00:12:46
Questions Would you approve contract ID 7039? Second move by Commissioner James second by Mr. Buck to approve all in favor, 00:12:54
Opposed motion carries #4. Consider contract 1874. You task order contract for Tuberculosis Prevention and Control Program 00:12:59
Authorized chairs science and electronically. 00:13:05
Another contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment is for tuberculosis prevention and control, and it 00:13:12
helps offset county costs for that program. Of course, tuberculosis is historically one of the biggest killers in the history of 00:13:19
mankind, so this allows us to not only detect, but provide treatment and preventative measures for tuberculosis and Weld County 00:13:26
residents. The funding? Again $50,000. 00:13:33
Allows us to continue the program at current levels. No additional staff is requested and I recommend that the board approve this 00:13:41
contract. Questions. 00:13:45
Like commissioner saying second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries #5. Consider contract ID 00:13:51
7062, Contract amendment number six for Public health Emergency preparedness and response to authorized Christian Smith 00:13:56
electronics. 00:14:01
One more contract with Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment for public health emergency preparedness and response. 00:14:07
This contract dates back five plus years of. This program dates back five plus years. The purpose is to. 00:14:14
Integrate public health. 00:14:22
In emergency preparedness to help. 00:14:24
Train and prepare for disease outbreaks like pandemics or bioterrorism or emergent diseases. 00:14:27
It also allows us to prepare for dispensing of vaccines or antibiotics, fast dispensing in the event that that becomes necessary. 00:14:34
And allows funding for a staff epidemiologist. Funding contract is July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. The 00:14:43
dollar amount is $290,770, which allows us to continue the program at current levels. No additional staff as requested. 00:14:52
I recommend that the board approve this contract with CHG questions. 00:15:01
Move to Approve contract ID 7062. 00:15:06
Mr. James second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor. Aye, opposed motion carries. 00:15:10
Number six consider contract ID. 00:15:16
#7064 Statement of work for waste tire inspection program and authorized chair to sign. 00:15:19
Contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. This is a small dollar amount contract for $7554.96. 00:15:26
Which reimburses our staff for a very limited amount of time and inspecting waste tire generators, essentially making sure that 00:15:35
waste tires are disposed of properly. Obviously with that low dollar amount there's not a lot of staff time spent on this, but it 00:15:41
does allow. 00:15:46
The program to continue at current levels. No new staff is requested. Contract period July 1st, 2023 through June 30th of next 00:15:53
year. 00:15:57
I recommend that the board approve this contract. 00:16:02
Question moved second. Moved by Mr. Sean, second by commissioner. Both to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries #7. 00:16:05
Consider contract ID #7065, amendment number one to task order contract for air quality program and authorized chair science 00:16:10
middle electronics. 00:16:16
Last but not least, contract with the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment for our Air Quality program. 00:16:23
Essentially, this allows us to operate. 00:16:29
Monitoring network to staff to conduct inspections and provide information compliance guidance with stationary sources. 00:16:36
UM issued bond permits and respond to air quality related complaints. The funding amount is $124,105.00. Again contract period 00:16:45
July 1st of this year through June 30th of next year. 00:16:51
With no additional staffing requested, we will continue this program at current level. I recommend that the Board approves the 00:16:58
contract question. 00:17:02
Move to approve Second move by Mr. Brock, Second by Mr. James to approve on favor. Opposed motion carries Thanks Jason #8. 00:17:07
Consider Contract ID number 7008, Intergovernmental Agreement for Campus Police Officer Program and authorized charter Sign AIMS 00:17:13
Community College. 00:17:19
Good morning, Board of Commissioners. For the record, Sonia Cobra for County Sheriff's Office finance manager, I'm presenting 00:17:29
unbiased contract 7008. 00:17:33
The new 2023 Ames Community Contract for Campus Law Enforcement. 00:17:38
Services to you today for approval and signature. 00:17:43
The original contract has been terminated and is being replaced by the new one. The County Attorney reviewed the IGA's legal 00:17:47
language in the past around was reviewed and signed by all 5 commissioners on the 16th of May 2023. 00:17:56
Questions. 00:18:05
Would approve contract ID 7008 second, then move by Mr. James, second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor opposed motion carries. 00:18:07
Thank you, son #9. Consider Contract ID 7066 Acceptance Appeal Preliminary Award decision for 2023 Edward Byrne Memorial Justice 00:18:17
Assistance Grants Program for license plate readers and authorized Sheriff's Office to sign and submit electronically for the 00:18:25
records on your program for County Sheriff Finance Manager. I'm here today to present contract 7066, the 2023 Edward Byrne 00:18:32
Memorial Justice Assistant Grant Award. 00:18:39
To you for approval, we have been awarded 49,928 dollars. 00:18:47
Which will fund 3 stationary license plate readers. 00:18:52
For our patrol investigations department, I would like to request approval to accept the funds for the Sheriff's Office and sign 00:18:56
the acceptance of preliminary award decision. 00:19:02
The Grand Award has been reviewed by the Counties Attorney and the PA was approved by 5 commissioners on the 5th of June and the 00:19:08
period runs from October of 23 through September of 30th of 2024. 00:19:17
Questions. 00:19:27
Social proof. Second move by Mr. Buck. Second by Mr. James to approve. All in favor. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries. Thank you so 00:19:28
much. Thank you so much. You have considered contract. ID 7051, Application for 2024-2025 Hazardous materials Emergency 00:19:34
Preparedness grant and authorized chairs. Sign Morning, Roy. 00:19:40
Good morning, commissioners. We're just celebrating the management office commissioners, that grant application that we have 00:19:47
before you is for hazardous materials grant. We're doing something a little bit different on this application. Typically we do an 00:19:52
annual application run from October 1st through September 30th of the following year. 00:19:57
The state is in. Umm, The money comes from the Pipeline Hazardous Materials program. It's not Homeland Security funds, so it runs 00:20:04
a little bit different. 00:20:08
The state is actually on a five year grant program. 00:20:13
And so, rather than doing an annual application every year, which the state typically does, I reached out to him to see if we 00:20:16
could do a two year grant through 25. 00:20:19
With afforded their granting for 2025 and they accepted that. So the dollar amount actually covers two years of of support to our 00:20:23
office that covers. 00:20:28
Two of the positions within our office for the hazardous materials program, training exercise program. So the the funding, the 00:20:34
funding will actually go actually helps the annual so we'll have. 00:20:40
The funding starting in October 1st. This grant will cover October 1st. 00:20:47
Umm. 00:20:51
2023 and then I'll run through the 2025 grant year also. So total total funding requested federal dollars is $414,721. 00:20:52
And our matching dollar requirement will be 103,000. 00:21:06
Umm $680.25. I wanna thank Jennifer in accounting. She helped me figure out estimated salary costs for the next two years. 00:21:10
So in a state understands that those salaries are estimated and so are the the dollar amount may change. The interesting thing 00:21:19
about this grant has been. 00:21:23
There's been leftover funds each year out of this grant that the state has been able to spend down some of its because some folks 00:21:27
are applying for it because they can't. 00:21:32
They can't afford the match dollars. 00:21:37
At the county level and so that's that's a little bit of the challenge for them. So we're able to able to apply these funds 00:21:39
towards personnel. So no, no plan to add anybody at this point but recommend the board approve the application. 00:21:46
Questions. 00:21:55
Linda proof second move by Mr. Buck second by Mr. saying to approve all in favor Aye opposed motion carries. Thank you thanks Roy 00:21:56
#11 consider settlement agreement for bridge 5413 a reconstruction project authorized chair sign Dustin and Jamie Christensen 00:22:02
chairman these are just item in the next item. 00:22:09
Relate to the same thing, which is bridge 5413 A. 00:22:17
There's a purchase of right of way and a temporary construction easement. 00:22:21
And also is the provision of damages to the. 00:22:26
Remainder of the property. In other words, we're cutting off part of their. 00:22:30
Access across northern part of their lake. 00:22:35
I'm giving them the ability to make a new driveway there if they so choose. 00:22:38
So with this settlement agreement, we've called it that. 00:22:43
Only because there was. 00:22:48
The threat of condemnation, that's just something that they wanted to do, something to take advantage of the tax consequences. 00:22:50
The second item, which is number 12, is a temporary access and construction easement. 00:22:58
Agreement that happens during construction, so. 00:23:04
There will be coordination between. 00:23:08
Christiansen's because they're going to be building. 00:23:11
During this time so that they can get access to their property, so coordination between our crews that are constructing the 00:23:14
bridge. 00:23:18
And they're people who were constructing this stuff on their property. So that's what that agreement does. It makes it so that we 00:23:23
work together. 00:23:26
And use reasonable thoughts in terms of getting their access taken care of. 00:23:31
So we'd recommend approval of the amount for the settlement agreement as. 00:23:38
$720,000 that includes everything, including the damages. 00:23:42
OK. 00:23:48
Well, any questions? 00:23:49
OK. 00:23:50
Was the first second. 00:23:52
Been moved by Commissioner Jessica, by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor aye opposed motion carries and then #13 or number 00:23:53
sorry #12 is considered temporary access and construction easement agreement for Bridge 5413 a reconstruction project and 00:23:59
authorized chair assigned Dustin and Jamie Christensen. 00:24:04
And then hold your mail on that one, is that included in it? It's included all it's included. OK, so motion to do I have a motion 00:24:11
to approve this one Second. Second by Commissioner James to approve on favor. Aye, opposed motion carries. 00:24:18
#13 Consider contract ID 7050 concurrence letter for service area, foreign trade zone, program authorized, carry side. 00:24:25
Good morning, Cheryl Patelli Finance. Upstreet Colorado has requested that the Board of County Commissioners approved the Attached 00:24:33
Service Area concurrence letter as part of its assuming administrative oversight of the Foreign Trade Zone Program. By signing 00:24:41
this letter with the OC acknowledges that the World Trade Center will be able to apply to the Foreign Trade Zone Board. 00:24:48
For authority to service sites located within Weld County and that the zone will be made available on a uniform basis. 00:24:56
To companies within Weld County. 00:25:05
This request was approved by all 5 County commissioners via a May 30th, 2023 pass around and we recommend your approval. 00:25:07
OK. 00:25:16
Questions. 00:25:17
Just a quick comment, so the way this is described here as you probably have gotten letters, make sure that we have manufacturing 00:25:18
here in Colorado that they're not being double taxed, which is certainly the case in some of these sounds now. 00:25:24
So with that I I moved out first. 00:25:30
Second, moved by Commissioner Singh, second by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor aye opposed Motion carries. Concludes new 00:25:34
business with planning. Number one, consider applications for small Business Incentive Program. Authorized release of Economic 00:25:40
Development Trust Funds Tier 3 International Farms LLC. Rd. Trucking, Inc. 00:25:46
OK. Good morning, commissioners. Tom Parker, Department of Planning Services. 00:25:54
I'm pleased to bring forth another Small Business Incentive Program application for your consideration. This is for International 00:25:57
Farms, LLC. This business is located just West of Rottenberg on County Road 6. It was successful in going through the changes zone 00:26:04
process and a site plan review process. 00:26:10
What's interesting about this particular application is the first one that to fall under tier three of our program. As you all 00:26:17
know, we have those 3 tiers and and so this met all the eligibility requirements for Tier 3. 00:26:24
I went through all the application. 00:26:31
They doubted all their eyes crossed their Tees. 00:26:34
It meets everything, according to the Small Business Development Center as well. The award amount here is in a total of $40,000. 00:26:36
I would recommend your approval and I'd be happy to answer any questions. 00:26:45
Questions second. 00:26:50
Like Commissioner Shane, second by Commissioner Buck to approve all in favor. Aye, opposed motion carries. 00:26:53
Thanks, Tom. It's good to see those continue to happen. Absolutely. Several more in the queue. OK #2 consider decision, the 00:26:59
Department of Planning Services Director assessing Rd. impact fees associated with building permits, CNN22-0131, Stephen Wells. 00:27:07
OK, commissioners. Tom Parker, Department of Planning Services. So the resolution before you this morning. 00:27:16
This will consideration of an appeal of Rd. impact fees associated with the Crow Creek Event Center. This Event Center is located 00:27:23
east of Hwy. 392 and north of County Road 74. 00:27:28
The Crow Creek Event Center was approved under US R22. 00:27:35
Our Dash 0035 on April 19th, 2023 and the structure associated with this Event Center. 00:27:39
Is with building permit number CMN 22. 00:27:47
Dash 0131. 00:27:51
Department of Planning Services are responsible for collecting impact fees on all new construction. 00:27:53
And those fees are established under chapter five of the Weld County Code. 00:27:58
On May 17th, the owners, Representative Hannah Dutro, with that professional, submitted a letter of appeal to my attention, which 00:28:03
is authorized under Chapter 20, Section 20-1-60H, as summarized in my memo to the Commissioners, the only grounds for an appeal. 00:28:11
To the directors and appeal of the land use type used to calculate the road impact fee. 00:28:20
There are a total of 10 land use categories. The land use category used for this Event Center was shopping center slash 00:28:26
commercial. Obviously this is not a shopping center, but it is commercial in nature. 00:28:33
And going through and reviewing the USSR application materials on file. 00:28:41
Definitely is commercial in nature. 00:28:47
I I do understand that, you know, this Event Center is used by a lot of charities and nonprofits. 00:28:51
Uh, but like I said before, the applications also states that, you know, this facility could be open for wedding events and 00:28:58
private parties of the like. 00:29:03
In 2021, the impact fee schedule in chapter five was updated following a study prepared by Duncan and Associates. During this 00:29:08
update, staff added Event Center within the definition of shopping center slash commercial. 00:29:15
We added this because we have approved several. 00:29:23
Event centers like Crow Creek over the last several years. 00:29:26
Examples of similar event centers include USR 150028. 00:29:29
USSR 190033. 00:29:34
And you SR20-0035 staff has been consistent in applying the shopping center commercial land use category on all event centers. 00:29:37
Following my review of the fees, I upheld the departments assessment and determined that the correct land use category was used to 00:29:47
calculate the road impact fee for the Crow Creek Event Center. 00:29:52
On May 26, Miss Dutro appealed my decision to the Board of County Commissioners. Under Chapter 2, Section 2-4-10. The Board of 00:29:58
County Commissioners have two options available to you under the code. 00:30:05
Option number one is to uphold my decision, in which case the fee shall be paid in the concordance with the land use category used 00:30:13
to calculate the fees for this facility. Or option #2. The applicant can apply for an independent fee calculation study as 00:30:19
described under section 20-1-80. 00:30:26
The intent of the independent fee analysis is to determine appropriate impact fees for land uses that are not typically or not 00:30:33
typical of the generalized land uses listed in the impact fee schedule. 00:30:39
It shall not be a grounds for an independent fee analysis that the initial occupant of the development will not generate as much 00:30:46
impact. 00:30:50
As is assumed by the fee schedules, but that unique and permanent features are the development result in lower impacts over the 00:30:55
long term. 00:30:59
I I do have one correction to the to the resolution which clipped to the board was very quick to go ahead and change. But we are 00:31:06
really just kind of a focusing on the road impact fee this morning I believe the resolution had originally stated an amount of. 00:31:15
30 some $1000 but the actual Rd. impact fee is $25,992. 00:31:25
This really concludes my remarks and I'm happy to answer any questions. 00:31:33
That's true. 00:31:39
As the Commissioner, ordinary discussion very briefly about this. 00:31:41
Hello. 00:31:47
Probably be that. 00:31:49
Put on that public comment and. 00:31:50
How much? 00:31:52
I think we do. 00:31:54
You should. 00:31:56
OK, so let me hold my comments after public comment then I'm going to certainly make a motion to modify this. 00:31:57
And approve the appeal for several reasons, and I'll give those after the public comment. 00:32:05
Hmm. 00:32:10
You should hear from the intelligent need to hear from the applicant, right, Tim, Come on up. 00:32:11
Good morning, commissioners. Tim Taylor with our Professionals, 3050 67th Ave. I'm representing Mr. Wells. 00:32:21
In my request to ask the board to. 00:32:27
Review the determination of the planning Director on the road impact fee. 00:32:31
Land use category. 00:32:37
Well, we certainly agree with Mr. Parco that the land use category states in the Definition Event Center. 00:32:39
We believe that this, these, these categories are. 00:32:47
Very broad and. 00:32:51
Throw everything into it and and. 00:32:52
We believe that the, uh, the land use of this, since it is, it's a rural facility, it's a rule Event Center, it's for wedding, 00:32:56
it's a wedding venue, they'll they'll have hayrides, similar stuff to that. 00:33:04
Um, we believe that it, it fits more into the commercial ad category, which includes Agra Entertainment. 00:33:12
I don't know that. 00:33:19
How many people have driven by these corn mazes during October? And there's a. 00:33:21
Significant load impact. You know there's there's cars lined up all day from 10:00 in the morning till 10 at night. This this 00:33:28
Event Center allows 200 people. 00:33:33
So it's. 00:33:38
It's a small. It's a small facility. 00:33:40
And it and it accesses directly onto Hwy. 392. So the travel route for this facility would be Hwy. 85 to Lucerne. 00:33:43
392 to the Event Center. There's really very little impact. 00:33:53
To the roads of 1 county because of the location of this facility. 00:33:57
We believe that that the the road impact fee. 00:34:04
For the. 00:34:08
Egg, commercial or commercial agriculture fits that fits that category. 00:34:10
It it certainly isn't a. 00:34:15
Budweiser Event Center It isn't a a Union Colony Event Center. It isn't an island Grove. It's a small facility. Again, nature. 00:34:18
And certainly fits the the commercial lag. 00:34:29
Description. 00:34:33
Um, it just happens to be called an Event Center. So we understood Mr. Parker's decision. It's in the definition we see that. 00:34:34
But we don't believe that that category. 00:34:45
Is. 00:34:49
It's it's. It's got too many things thrown into it that don't fit, so we'd request that if it just be. 00:34:51
Um, adjusted to the to the AG commercial. 00:34:58
Land use. 00:35:04
OK. And we have one other thing I'd also ask that. 00:35:05
Part of the fee impact fees associated with the building permit be categorized as that. 00:35:09
Because there there are multiple. 00:35:16
Alright, what's it called? Tom? It's family. It's the What's the other thing? 00:35:18
The other. 00:35:23
Category the other land use, there's a there's an impact fee that's the capital facilities, facilities impact fee. 00:35:25
So it it it follows the same categories as the road impact fees. 00:35:33
So. 00:35:38
We'd like it to. 00:35:39
Encompass all of that. 00:35:41
And for assessing a road impact fee then let's truly take some sort of definition or or assessment of what the impact on the road 00:36:13
might actually be. And you and I had this conversation on on Friday and we can I think with a simple traffic study and and I'm not 00:36:19
necessarily proposing that for for this particular instance. 00:36:25
But for instances in the future we can we can truly get an accurate assessment of what the impact to the roadway will will be. 00:36:31
Yeah. 00:36:39
Yes, Sir. And to answer your question, I think that is the purpose behind the independent fee study analysis. 00:36:40
Is to actually get a transportation planner or traffic engineer to go through and really determine what those true impacts are. 00:36:49
And if it if it is true that there's not going to be a lot of impacts that are generated from this facility, then as the code 00:36:55
states, then we can go through and review that and that might actually lower the fee. 00:37:02
We've done a couple of independent fee calculation studies in the past, so I I just wanted to point that out. That's probably the 00:37:09
proper process to go through instead of trying to determine the best category here. 00:37:16
But certainly. 00:37:25
Yeah, it's the Board's purview here. Thank you. Continue on that. Mister Nabors is proposing a certain classification and then I 00:37:27
appreciate the request. I don't feel that, but I appreciate the request. I I with this option #2 that I see before us here to 00:37:34
overturn the director's decision or can direct the applicant to apply for an independent fee calculation study. 00:37:41
According to the procedures outlined in their code. 00:37:49
All of our code, that's good. That independent tree calculation study then does that become the arbiter of the actual fee 00:37:52
assessed? 00:37:55
That becomes the determinant, yes. So staff will then review that study and then base the fee on on the actual impacts. What that 00:38:00
fee would be, it's hard to tell until that studies done and it could be it could be the same amount here or it could be 00:38:08
substantially less than that. And then of course there's also another process in the code that if staff for some reason came to an 00:38:15
impasse or or or the applicant disagreed with staff. 00:38:23
Running through that particular study, that can also be appealed back to the Board of County Commissioners. 00:38:30
OK. So I have two questions. I'm done. Thanks. First one is, So what is something, what is something, what is something like that 00:38:37
study? What does that cost? 00:38:41
Well, there's a nominal application fee, but whatever the cost is, is to prepare that. Again, it could be a transportation planner 00:38:45
or a traffic engineer to do that study. So there is some cost. I'll be completely honest with you, but. 00:38:52
That I can. I can answer that question. It's anywhere from. 00:39:00
2000 to $5000. 00:39:04
OK. 00:39:07
And then the second question I've got and I've always been a little bit confused about about this. 00:39:08
I struggle with the fact that there were Basin Rd. impact fees based on a kind of building or a size of a building and not what 00:39:16
the actual impact of the roads are. I've always struggled with that. But the second part of that is where does World Counties 00:39:22
really I struggle with where is well counties really impact fees if the access is on a state highway that's that's the other thing 00:39:28
that I that I'm just not quite sure I understand it's. 00:39:33
It's not. It's not. It's not an impact. It's not a access that's off of a County Road, it's off of a state highway. So what is 00:39:39
Weld County's impact in this? 00:39:43
I think, Commissioner, answer your first question again when we went through with the Duncan Associates study that was recently 00:39:48
updated. 00:39:52
On around 2021, I know we've had some conversations around that, but our responsibility is to follow exactly the feed schedule 00:39:56
that's that's in the code right now. And so as it's written, it's based off square footage that fee is. So yes, the bigger the 00:40:04
building, the bigger the fee when it, it depends on which land use category there is there. So it doesn't say if you're generating 00:40:12
200 trips, the fee shall be this or through generating 10 trips the fee shall be this. 00:40:19
You know, I'm definitely, as we're going through the budget process heading into next year, we could look at fees and those types 00:40:27
of things. 00:40:31
But the second part of your question too, does this really come out on a County Road? No, it's well north of County Road 74 and 00:40:36
off of the state highway. But again you know when we're assessing these fees, it doesn't say in there if you're accessing a state 00:40:44
highway there should be no Rd. impact fee applied, just says Rd. impact fees are are. 00:40:52
Assessed on all new construction so and so and Tom, you and I have had this conversation a number of times over the years. I could 00:41:00
have a huge game building that doesn't generate any traffic and I could have a really small building that has a whole lot of 00:41:08
people coming in and out all the time. And so I struggle with, I struggle with the size of the building determining the road 00:41:15
impact fee. I just always have because it seems to me we ought to be based on a road impact fee somehow based on what the actual. 00:41:23
And actually it'll be the road because I mean I could have a I could have a 200,000 square foot building, but. 00:41:30
Pretty much as as. 00:41:37
Two trips of a going in and out of that thing versus versus a you know. 00:41:39
A very small for example pot shop for example, that's gotten 9000 people a day coming in so they get back fees are not should not 00:41:44
be based on the size of the building, they should be based on the road impact. But interesting comparison there Mr. Frank. 00:41:51
So. 00:42:00
Gently the last couple of years. That's what the Duncan study said, that just now Commission will vote against the increased 00:42:01
impact fees. 00:42:04
For that exact reason. So I'm glad we're paying attention now as far as actual impact on them, that's exactly. 00:42:07
What we should be doing and there's ways to do that directly. 00:42:14
Without voting techniques. So I I think a fee in this instance is really just a chance on business. 00:42:17
So I not only do I think we should lower it for everyone. 00:42:23
Based on the actual impact of the roads, maybe we should get rid of it altogether and address it in a different way, but in this 00:42:27
instance I. 00:42:31
I think you're right. 00:42:36
I'm not saying, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have impact fees. I'm saying that that it should be based on the on the impact 00:42:38
that this facility was having, you know, was having tons and tons of traffic every day. Yeah, we ought to be charging it based on 00:42:44
based on the Internet right now. It's not done that way and it goes into communicable which is wrong. 00:42:50
Nothing. So I went I'll move to approve this as far as modifying and to approve this appeal for this particular. 00:42:58
Charity of isn't it? It's still could impact the world That's so. In other words what's your what's your degree is to appeal to go 00:43:39
to do the independent fee study. 00:43:42
Because that was our two options. I think we just approve it. I'm gonna make a motion to approve it. 00:43:47
Well, I'm not sure what you what you want this appeal is either to deny the appeal or approve the appeal and go to an independent 00:43:52
fee study. That's that's two options, correct? 00:43:57
It is their proof. 00:44:03
You know it's modified in this the modified the decision the Director of Planning department. 00:44:06
Um, and to approve the appeal to go to the study. Is that correct? Is that the only two options? That's correct, ma'am. That's the 00:44:11
motion. Can I ask a question? 00:44:16
So. 00:44:21
I the way I read this is that uh that that you have the. 00:44:25
The appeal of the land use category is what we're appealing. 00:44:29
Because. 00:44:35
It seems like we're. 00:44:38
We could have gone directly to the. We could have gone directly to the. 00:44:41
To the. 00:44:47
Road impact fee independent fee calculation. 00:44:48
Without having to come to the board to ask for that, I feel like we should have been able to say hey. 00:44:52
We don't agree with the land use that Mister Parker. Parker was determined. We're asking for this and the board said yes, we agree 00:44:58
with that land use and not. 00:45:03
Have to go through. 00:45:09
The independent fee calculation, but the other thing with independent fee calculations, with having to appeal to the board is 00:45:11
that. 00:45:14
The building permits been available for six weeks now. 00:45:20
We go in and do another month of in in you know for an independent fee study scheduled with the board scheduled with you know for 00:45:24
three months out on a building permit. 00:45:28
That you know not only is, you know. 00:45:33
It costs money to do that, but but the time that we're not able to actually get a building permit. 00:45:38
Is because we're appealing the fee. The way I read it is that we have the that the commissioners have the ability to. 00:45:44
Change the land use category so it doesn't have to go to. I'm looking to the accounting attorney. So if it specifically says that 00:45:53
our code and Event Center goes in this category, is that something that is appealable? 00:45:58
I guess it would be. 00:46:04
I think it is OK. Thank you. You have the ability to appeal. 00:46:05
The category that it goes into. OK, that makes more sense to me then. 00:46:10
Hey, you know the. 00:46:15
I mean here issue which is. 00:46:17
You should base the fee on what the. 00:46:20
Actual impacts are. 00:46:22
That. 00:46:25
Is something that could be done for everyone. 00:46:27
But they're gonna have to come up with an independent. 00:46:29
Study to show what the impacts really are so you're costing everyone. 00:46:33
That that amount. 00:46:38
I mean the the fees are based on a national study. 00:46:41
That works out these types of uses and the general. 00:46:45
And so that it's not specific as to. 00:46:50
Exactly what it is that this. 00:46:54
Use. Is going to be generating the type of. 00:46:56
Activity. 00:46:59
Well and and and here's what I I'm just gonna be honest here. Here's where I struggle with this. So we've got an Event Center that 00:47:02
maybe does an event every other weekend or whatever put in the same thing as a as a shopping center that people go in out of all 00:47:08
day every day. So the the use doesn't seem like we've counted in the light use. It does seem like it's more of an ad commercial 00:47:14
type of use to me. 00:47:21
I think the fault of, excuse me, I think the fault of us, says Aggro and the client. 00:47:27
And when we did the USSR, we named the thing the wrong thing. 00:47:34
We named it an Event Center. We didn't named it. 00:47:38
I don't know a hayride facility. 00:47:42
We will have gotten into the Event Center. It wouldn't have been that. We called it the Wells Crow Creek Event Center. 00:47:46
We named it something, but that's not the reality of. 00:47:52
What it is? 00:47:56
Well, and I'm. I feel like we're in a conundrum. Neither one of these choices is. 00:47:58
I'm sure we can do something now. I I don't know if we can do something now. The options are you? No. Bruce just said that they 00:48:04
could appeal the type of land use, which is what they're actually appealing. Is that what we're doing? But that's not what the 00:48:10
resolution is. The resolution is not written that we just go ahead and make another motion. We can have the clerk type. 00:48:15
Motion yet. So I'll, I'll go until my motion. I will resend my motion and I'll make a new motion that we actually follow through 00:48:22
with, with a new resolution that can be probably typed up right now that we change the use. 00:48:29
Uh, since that's what the applicant clearly wants to heal, is he wants to change her from Event Center to a commercial. 00:48:37
Can somebody send that one? We'll have it written up. 00:48:44
Line. 00:48:49
I don't know if we could do that with you once you set it up so we can have yeah. I'll second it so we can discuss. OK I I because 00:48:51
I I don't agree with you. I don't disagree rather with the intent. I agree with the intent. I just want to make sure that we are 00:48:55
locked up and doing what's within our. 00:49:00
Within what we can do? 00:49:06
There they are. I think you can. I mean the problem is. 00:49:08
You're making a category that. What about the next one and the next one after that? I mean everyone of them. 00:49:11
Is. 00:49:19
Has some differences. 00:49:20
And so you know the typically with categories like that you're doing it in a legislative sense. 00:49:22
And saying, yeah, is this a best category? Is this the best category for that type of use? 00:49:29
I mean, that's the problem with saying it's an appeal of the category. 00:49:36
Because. 00:49:43
It sets a precedent for the next one. So I feel like we're at a command room because I think the resolution doesn't apply to the 00:49:44
issue that. 00:49:47
We're trying to struggle with the decision, so. 00:49:51
I don't know if we can continue until Wednesday to have a correct resolution to. 00:49:54
You know, we could amend the resolution that we want just because it's written that way. You can change, you could amend the 00:49:59
resolution. OK. So my, I guess my other question, Tom is for example, these AG entertainment type things whether it's. 00:50:05
You know, whether it's whether it's the the one, the pumpkin, you know, the pump, the different part of those are those 00:50:11
categorized as egg. 00:50:15
Commercial. Now I believe the way that we've assessed event centers is under the shopping center, no, I'm talking, I'm talking 00:50:20
like, I'm talking Clippers like Critters is a little different like. 00:50:25
You know Anderson Farms, Miller Farms of 19, I mean those all have use by special review permits as well, but like a corn maze and 00:50:32
stuff, again, we're just talking about the building itself, so not not necessarily the use so. 00:50:38
So agree, tainment might be a good use, but again, the impact fees just applied to the buildings themselves. 00:50:46
Now, so you could have you could have something like. You could have something like Chryslers. 00:50:52
Right, That's got a ton of people. 00:50:58
And doesn't even have a building exactly. There would be no room in that case. We might do like an improvements agreement, Rd. 00:51:00
maintenance agreement, those types of things that are usually associated with those to help address traffic concerns there. But 00:51:07
yes, I mean you could you could have a big facility and or a big use and not have very many structures or any structures at all. 00:51:15
I have the definition of agricultural commercial if that would help. It's it means for the purpose of this chapter agricultural 00:51:23
processing facilities for producer, livestock intensive factory style production of animals and animal products commercial use is 00:51:28
serving. 00:51:33
The agricultural sector. 00:51:39
But does not include Office uses. 00:51:41
Typical uses include feedlots, dairies, factory farms, sales of agricultural equipment and supplies. 00:51:43
Commercial agricultural storage facilities, Agra entertainment facilities IE roping arenas, corn mazes and etcetera and similar 00:51:49
uses. 00:51:54
We feel like we fit in that aggro tainment facilities, roping arenas, corn mazes and similar uses. 00:51:59
And I'll just say something for sure. Other people. Other folks. 00:52:12
Applying for this, they can appeal or they can come through the ad commercial process. So we wouldn't be creating a new process 00:52:16
for understand what the attorney just said for just one person. 00:52:21
I'm struggling with that's the right category either though. But I mean the very last thing you said 90% of that definition didn't 00:52:26
have anything to do with it. No, with the aggregate, the aggregate entertainment facilities, roping arenas, corn mazes. 00:52:33
You know that's those are events. Those are events I. 00:52:40
They are, they are but but that but those kind of events. So now we're talking like double check phones out there or the double 00:52:43
check arena, right, but. 00:52:48
And those have considerably more Rd. impact. They do, but then but they're not. They're not a wedding face. I mean, there's a 00:52:54
difference between actually ad stuff and versus the Event Center that's doing, that's doing weddings and and and whatever other. 00:53:02
Wagon rides, which is part of their. 00:53:12
Part of their. 00:53:16
Thing is, they have, they have horse, horse rides and. 00:53:17
Hmm. 00:53:21
Wagon rides for for people. That's what they've been doing. That's what they started with. 00:53:22
Allow me to ask questions here, period. I'm sorry, Commissioner Bucks. 00:53:28
Question. Could we continue this and consider? 00:53:34
What is an AG commercial facility? Because again, I think we can all agree that the Duncan study is very flawed. 00:53:37
And I think we should revisit it and do something better. 00:53:43
I feel like we're moving on the fly. I I feel uncomfortable with. 00:53:47
Trying to figure this out when I think we need to. 00:53:51
Just continue until Wednesday. Well, here's here's what I Here's what I know. 00:53:54
Pretty sure that I know and that is. 00:54:00
Will impact the $25,000 on something like this is completely, that's just that's how it works. So I don't know how we fix it. I 00:54:04
don't know how we get there without setting some kind of a precedent that impact future things. But that certainly isn't going to 00:54:09
be based on the use of that of that facility. 00:54:15
Mr. Chair, I think when you said too, it's off of a. 00:54:23
US Hwy. 392, it's not a County Road. So I'm again, like I said, I feel like we're trying to make a decision and we're in a comp 00:54:27
quandary and I think we need to just continue it until Wednesday. 00:54:33
What do we expect to get between now and Wednesday? A definition of where we're at and apply. I think we need at least a week 00:54:39
because right now we're what we're asking if we. 00:54:44
Based on this resolution, the only thing to be a lot of time my three months to get traffic engineering, but that's very 00:54:49
expensive. I think there's a way we can do this without stocking an independent study to everyone to get a professional 00:54:54
transportation. I mean, like I said, this second study has been flawed from the beginning. There's a difference between. 00:55:00
Doing this legislatively. 00:55:06
And looking at it legislatively and then doing on a piece meal basis, on every appeal that comes through you're going to change 00:55:09
the code. You need to change the code you do and if it's wrong, OK, we'll fix it right. But we need to do that legislatively. You 00:55:14
can't do this by. 00:55:20
Continuing in a week and then determining what this appeal should be. OK, So I mean, I I think The thing is. 00:55:25
Tim is asking and saying that the building is being put in the wrong category and I I get that. I mean, I I understand his appeal 00:55:34
and I think it's a good appeal pursuant to the code. 00:55:42
Now the question is, is it in fact in the wrong category? 00:55:50
And and maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I don't know. And I I think what Tom is saying is. 00:55:55
But their way to do it to make it more specific as to. 00:56:01
What actually is going to happen there is to do an independent fee calculation and that's the reason why we put that in there is 00:56:05
for someone to say, hey, that doesn't apply to me because I go out on the state highway and I. 00:56:11
Do these other things. 00:56:18
I mean, can I ask the applicant, shall we have some? If we don't do this today, we need some time. If we want to change the code 00:56:21
to accurately reflect what is AG commercial, that's going to take at least what Tom six weeks. 00:56:28
Six months? What? No, you gotta have three reading process on the thing, right? But that's that's right. Take six months. Yeah. 00:56:36
And we've done it pretty fast before. You would need to redo the the study because the study creates the Nexus between the fee 00:56:44
that's being charged. 00:56:50
And the use. OK so. 00:56:55
Hmm. 00:57:01
So back to the Afghan. I'm sorry, what's the fastest? We've got a code change through that. We've we've done this pretty quickly. 00:57:02
The commissioner saying you heard what Bruce said, you've got to redo the study. They're asking for a change of use so we can do 00:57:09
that within our code now. 00:57:13
But I don't want to. Asking for is to say he's saying unappealing the category that you're putting it into, right? 00:57:18
And so you can make that determination. You could say, yeah, it should be in this category rather than in that category, mean that 00:57:26
I think is a valid appeal. 00:57:31
And and I'm just saying once you do that. 00:57:38
Similarly situated. 00:57:42
Event Center centers will come in and say the same thing. Then I do. I renew the motion. I think I made the motion. Alright, let's 00:57:44
do that. Other people have a chance to appeal. 00:57:49
Right. They can appeal the decision. Why don't we just do that as it's in our code now and change this use to add commercial. So 00:57:54
I'll renew the motion something will second it. 00:57:58
And you already seconded that already second, so I withdraw my second will you regard with helping you. 00:58:04
OK. 00:58:11
That we're granting. 00:58:12
Mr. Nader's appeal. 00:58:13
To act commercial. 00:58:16
Changes. 00:58:17
To change the category housing, I'll second while I share the county attorneys. 00:58:19
We got a specific instance which I am, I am sympathetic to and I we got a broader consequence which I'm concerned with. But for 00:58:26
that case I will second the motion. OK. So I'm just going to make one comment on this. So if you if you're looking at something 00:58:31
like this, right? 00:58:36
To me, and commercial is the more correct place for the category than the shopping center. It just is, yes. So I'm going to 00:58:42
support the motion. 00:58:46
OK. 00:58:51
Any other comments? 00:58:53
Do we need a little cold vote? 00:58:57
OK. All in favor of. 00:59:00
The appeal to change the category from. 00:59:02
Shopping center too much commercial to agricultural, commercial and commercial. 00:59:07
OK. All in favor. Aye. Opposed motion carries. Quick question. That being said, I do think that we ought to. Tom, I'm gonna have 00:59:13
one more on your plate besides the besides the solar one. You need to take a look at the at the code. Not that we shouldn't charge 00:59:21
fees. Not that we should. We just need to I think and we've had this conversation numerous times. We just need to be we need to be 00:59:28
charging people for what the actual impact is. We need to be covering costs here instead of just. 00:59:35
I don't know. So size of the building I struggle with and we made these changes back a few years ago when with the whole oil and 00:59:43
gas on the way, we were doing that and just based on what our role in that was. And so I just think we need to take a look at it 00:59:50
some point and just just because we're directing our staff, I also think it should not go into communal fund which is basically it 00:59:57
should be like an invoice if they pay something there should be a direct benefit to that vote or whatever they're on. 01:00:03
It should not go into a large fund that it gets distributed to wherever it's it's not right the way this is. 01:00:10
Or on the back end, That's a different conversation. 01:00:17
Conversation, Sir, if we're going to be looking at the Duncan study. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just. 01:00:21
My concern of our Lawrence, I, I think that the intent of the board is clear, but I want to make sure with the the clerk to the 01:00:25
board because basically we're asking you to spitball a new resolution. 01:00:30
That we will appropriately have to. 01:00:35
To to prove I can't, Tom and I will work on it together and then we'll have that so that it's on the consent agenda, on the 01:00:38
consent agenda next. 01:00:43
Was today's Monday through Wednesday? Thank you. OK. 01:00:48
Well, Commissioners, thank you. Thanks for your able to make it work. I want to thank Mr. Parko for for. 01:00:53
Processing our request and and the board for for approving it. Thank you very much. 01:01:00
Alright, that concludes planning public comment. 01:01:05
During public comment this morning. 01:01:09
Come on up. 01:01:13
Good morning. My name is Steve Keats, I. 01:01:31
First of all, I don't remember if I mentioned this last time I was here, but we we have a free bus conference in the state from 01:01:38
June 1st to August 31st. 01:01:44
And the buses are free. 01:01:51
Also, I liked it. 01:01:54
Say something else. Last week there was a meeting that I was surprised at. I had a meeting at the Ridgeway and but I was there 01:01:58
early, so I went through the grieving Tribune and there was some information that there was going to be meaningful and the state. 01:02:07
Some state representatives were gonna be there and and so I stayed at the library because it started around 5530 and about 7730 01:02:16
and they did a presentation and then we broke up in groups and there was three groups, trans, transportation, oil and gas and 01:02:24
health. 01:02:32
And I forgot the other group. 01:02:40
And and guess what group I went into? 01:02:42
Trying to get now. 01:02:48
Yeah. 01:02:49
Situation You're right, but anyway. 01:02:52
And the biggest group was transportation, right? More people and we have about 2530 people there and. 01:02:56
But the largest we've broken groups was transportation and it was very interesting too that I've been saying that others they say 01:03:06
why we need to get around. 01:03:13
Better and all that. And we need better public transportation if it's. 01:03:21
In Greeley Evans area but also there's mentioned too about having a regional so we get people going out because of the growth and 01:03:27
because the growth of Weld County Lamar County and. 01:03:35
That we could have a regional up here like you know, RTD, RTA, whatever big that'd be able to get around for work, for medical, 01:03:43
for events and things like that, so. 01:03:51
That's not a kind of and they say they're going to have another meeting sometime late summer and hopefully they'll let people know 01:04:00
this time. And I did recommend that they invite the city of Greeley, Evans and the county Commissioners of World. So hopefully you 01:04:08
will give it that they will know when they're going to have it and invite you guys. 01:04:16
Ohh also we got a present after the presentation of the meeting. They gave us a gift card to. Was very nice of him. 01:04:27
So I'm going to the next one up to. 01:04:37
I agree that we need to work on a regional system now because of the growth in world environment, county and people need to get 01:04:41
back and forth as well as. 01:04:47
The. 01:04:53
With military veterans for the medical healing. 01:04:55
OK. Or even out for further, UH, we don't have a VA clinic here and it's all in Loveland and try to talk to VA Well, that's like 01:05:00
talking to the federal government, but we won't get into that. And my last one is? 01:05:09
That we're talking about. 01:05:19
Yeah, earlier. 01:05:24
Whatever they were doing and in this week, there's a long enforcement tomorrow and VA Veterans Memorial and the Green City 01:05:28
government they. 01:05:34
When they were putting the sprinkler system, they're putting different kind of grass. They have corrected some of that, but. 01:05:43
In front, uh, between the sidewalk and the curb. There's still that ugly looking grass that they have and I told him about it, but 01:05:52
it's still, it's in front of in front of the. 01:05:59
Veterans Memorial as well as the Law Enforcement Memorial, and it still kind of looks ugly even though you got the regular grass 01:06:07
on the other side of the sidewalk. But on this side between the road and the sidewalk, it's still. 01:06:13
Looks kind of bad and I was wondering if you guys could recommend that they put the best grass that's the city agreement issues, 01:06:20
but you have that memorial there for law enforcement. And I just think that we all places you would make it look good, but I just 01:06:28
thought I'd bring that up too. Thank you. Any other public comment? 01:06:36
OK. Seeing none, we will adjourn and we do have a public hearing, so we'll give you time to. 01:06:45
Restart the computer and we'll do that quick. 01:06:52
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