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AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA |
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CERTIFICATION OF HEARINGS |
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PRESENTATIONS: 1) RECOGNITION OF SERVICES, SHERIFF’S OFFICE – LEE “JEFFREY” FALCONBURG |
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PROCLAMATIONS: 1) REUNIFICATION MONTH – JUNE 2023 |
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WARRANTS: 1) GENERAL WARRANTS – JUNE 6, 2023 |
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BIDS: 1) APPROVE BID #B2300107, CHASE BUILDING RENOVATION (822 7TH STREET, GREELEY) – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT |
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2) PRESENT BID #B2300119, COURTHOUSE ANNEX ROOF REPLACEMENT – FACILITIES DEPARTMENT |
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NEW BUSINESS: 1) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #7057 2023 PAUL COVERDELL FORENSIC SCIENCE IMPROVEMENT GRANT APPLICATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF APPLICATION CHANGES FORM, AND AUTHORIZE DIRECTOR OF NORTHERN COLORADO REGIONAL FORENSIC LABORATORY TO SIGN AND SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY |
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2) CONSIDER RENEWAL APPLICATION FOR A FERMENTED MALT BEVERAGE ON- PREMISES (COUNTY) LICENSE AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN – ANA M. LUCERO, DBA POLLO FELIZ |
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3) CONSIDER RENEWAL APPLICATION FOR A HOTEL AND RESTAURANT (COUNTY) LIQUOR LICENSE, AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN – REA’S DINER AT DILLARDS, LLC, DBA REA’S DINER AT DILLARDS |
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PLANNING: 1) CONSIDER CONTRACT ID #6978 PARTIAL RELEASE OF COLLATERAL AND ACCEPTANCE OF WARRANTY COLLATERAL FOR USE BY SPECIAL REVIEW PERMIT, USR18-0065 – WASTE MANAGEMENT DISPOSAL SERVICES OF COLORADO, INC. |
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2) SECOND READING OF CODE ORDINANCE #2023-07, IN THE MATTER OF REPEALING AND REENACTING, WITH AMENDMENTS, CHAPTER 17 PUBLIC PLACES OF THE WELD COUNTY CODE (CAMPING ON PUBLIC PROPERTIES) |
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3) EMERGENCY CODE ORDINANCE #2023-08, IN THE MATTER OF AMENDING CHAPTER 21, AREAS AND ACTIVITIES OF STATE INTEREST, OF THE WELD COUNTY CODE (MORATORIUM OF 1041 SEF’S) |
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To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with | 00:02:47 | |
liberty and justice for all. | 00:02:53 | |
Ohh, good morning. It's Wednesday, June 7th call with the Board of County Commissioners. Roll call please. | 00:03:01 | |
Scott King? Kevin Ross, are you saying payback? | 00:03:16 | |
Mike Crimmins reflect all five county commissioners are present. | 00:03:21 | |
Minutes Approval of Minutes of May 24th, 2023. Thank you Mr. Chair. And then to move the Minutes to the back of the new business. | 00:03:25 | |
I have not had a chance to read those out because my computer's been down. | 00:03:34 | |
OK. We'll continue minutes till next meeting. I'm sorry, until Monday. | 00:03:40 | |
OK, there's a motion to. | 00:03:46 | |
Continue the Minutes until the next second. | 00:03:48 | |
Another discussion. | 00:03:53 | |
No. | 00:03:56 | |
Mineral cobalt. | 00:03:58 | |
No, no, no. All in favor. Aye. Opposed motion. Mr. Chair, I would like to make another motion to remove Code Ordinance 202308. | 00:04:00 | |
From the agenda today, I believe that we can solve this without the heavy-handed government and I believe that more discussion is | 00:04:10 | |
needed on this topic. We can solve that with our current department heads. We have some very smart attorneys. | 00:04:17 | |
Yes, and very excellent people in this room that can help us out with this. I do not believe a moratorium on energy development is | 00:04:24 | |
needed at this time. | 00:04:27 | |
OK, so second. | 00:04:34 | |
I'll second for purposes of discussion. | 00:04:37 | |
Pulling discussion Well, I don't think it should be removed. I think the purpose of having it on there is to have the discussion | 00:04:43 | |
about it in particular so. | 00:04:48 | |
I don't get how. | 00:04:52 | |
Removing an item from agenda promotes discussion. | 00:04:54 | |
So discussion is had and you bring things to awareness by having one in agenda so we can have it in a formal setting. | 00:04:58 | |
As we say in the legislature, this is not ready for prime time. | 00:05:05 | |
We've got a lot of folks who want to speak on this today. I understand that they speak during. | 00:05:09 | |
When we discuss the ordinance, they can also speak during public comment. | 00:05:13 | |
So we can have plenty of public discussion today without putting this on the agenda. | 00:05:17 | |
Arranging my motion. | 00:05:20 | |
You know, it's something we've been talking about for quite a while. I think it's been some recommendations that we need to take a | 00:05:27 | |
time out and take a look at this for a very short period of time. There's some things that need to be looked at as far as | 00:05:32 | |
objective. We've talked about objective compatibility. | 00:05:36 | |
And this is not trying to end, so it's not doing anything with the majority of the solar things that we have seen come through. | 00:05:41 | |
This was for only the 1041, which is the areas of state interest. And I think that it makes sense that we take a time out and have | 00:05:46 | |
a conversation to make sure that we're all on the same page because it has a tremendous impact of what's going on across Weld | 00:05:51 | |
County so. | 00:05:55 | |
The Submergence Ordinance did not go through the proper procedure of Director to the Commissioner coordinator. I would. | 00:06:01 | |
Opposed this on the on the principle that. | 00:06:06 | |
If we say we don't have accounting manager. | 00:06:09 | |
And we directly. | 00:06:11 | |
Coordinate departments. | 00:06:13 | |
It should follow that process. This does not follow this process. | 00:06:14 | |
I think we can take some time out. | 00:06:18 | |
And do this in another work session or two like we have done in the past. And stakeholder. We just had that conversation at UNC | 00:06:20 | |
yesterday. | 00:06:23 | |
And we've heard a lot about business owners and other entities not having a stakeholder in process, and I do not want to repeat | 00:06:27 | |
the state mistakes of the session. | 00:06:31 | |
So go ahead. | 00:06:36 | |
I disagree with Commissioner saying on this we have a lot of people here. | 00:06:38 | |
Prepared to speak. I don't know which way they want to speak and to take this off the agenda, to not hear them speak. I think it's | 00:06:42 | |
a disservice to everybody sitting here because I can't tell you how everyone in this room feels about this issue, right? So the | 00:06:48 | |
fact that it's on here, people taking time away from work, time, willing to speak on this, positive or negative or indifferent, I | 00:06:54 | |
don't know what the feeling is from people and to get further information. So I know how I'm going to vote on this. | 00:07:00 | |
Some other things we've done along the way. And so I think that I agree with Mr. Ross, if we need to let people speak today. So | 00:07:37 | |
it's on the agenda, doesn't mean it's going to pass today, but it's on the agenda and we need to have the conversation about it | 00:07:43 | |
once we pass that through. Let me just make an objection, Mr. Chair, but that's why the stakeholders before you make legislation. | 00:07:50 | |
And not substantial changes legislation either. You do that before you come to the table, so I will budget my objections to that. | 00:07:57 | |
And I do wish there be Commission agenda and ask for a vote. | 00:08:04 | |
Anybody else anything? OK, roll call vote. Did did you have a second? | 00:08:09 | |
Yeah, I see that second. So it's been moving trying to remove this, so roll call vote. | 00:08:13 | |
Skype changes. | 00:08:19 | |
Telling us what you think is payback, No. | 00:08:20 | |
Mike Freeman, No. | 00:08:24 | |
OK. We'll stay on the agenda and we'll talk about it today. | 00:08:27 | |
Next item Sir. Ohh, next item Certification pairings. Alright. | 00:08:32 | |
Motion to read like code Ordinance to read ordinance. | 00:08:39 | |
Move to rebound you second. | 00:08:45 | |
OK. | 00:08:49 | |
Do we need a roll call roll on reading it by ordinance? | 00:08:50 | |
Broke over to read code ordinance by audio. | 00:08:54 | |
Sorry, Scott King. Yes. Kevin Ross, yes. What are you saying? | 00:09:01 | |
OK, back. Yes, Mike Freeman, yes. | 00:09:06 | |
OK, motion carries 4 to 1 amendments to the agenda. Do we have any amendments to the agenda? | 00:09:08 | |
OK, Google the consent agenda. | 00:09:15 | |
Certification of hearings Ohh I'm sorry. Certification of hearings conducted on May 24th, 2023 Sr. 23-001. | 00:09:17 | |
Burchard LLC. Second move by Commissioner. Second second by commissioner. James certify hearings. All in favor. | 00:09:25 | |
Curious #2 gender. | 00:09:34 | |
Amendment Approval of the consent agenda. | 00:09:37 | |
Move to approve the consent agenda second. | 00:09:43 | |
Been moved, like in Mr. James, second by Commissioner Ross, to approve the consent agenda. All in favor, Aye. Opposed. | 00:09:45 | |
Motion carried presentations, Recognition of Services, Sheriff's Office, Sheriff's Office lead Jeffrey Falkenberg. | 00:09:51 | |
OK, whereas Lee Jeffrey Falkenberg has served well County Sheriff's Office from April 3rd, 1989 to August 3rd, 20 August 2nd, | 00:10:04 | |
2023. And whereas the Board, County Commissioners wishes to recognize your dedicated service to Weld County and its citizens, Now | 00:10:10 | |
therefore be it known that the Board of Weld County Commissioners wishes to express its gratitude to lead Jeffrey Falkenberg for | 00:10:16 | |
your outstanding dedication to Weld County and its citizens. | 00:10:22 | |
It's actually just Jeff talking Oberg. As we all know, there's a few guys that are institutions in the agency. Jeff is one of | 00:10:38 | |
those guys. | 00:10:41 | |
Anybody who's worked in law enforcement or been around law enforcement career knows that this job can be difficult. | 00:10:46 | |
In any setting now, it's exponentially harder If you're working in a jail setting, which Jeff did for 34 years, wow, 34 years as a | 00:10:51 | |
deputy in jail. | 00:10:56 | |
In dog years, which is how we age people in law enforcement, 287 years. | 00:11:01 | |
Looking great demo. | 00:11:08 | |
That being said, Jeff was one of those guys that he predates me at the Sheriff's Office by several years. He was an institution | 00:11:10 | |
there already when I started. | 00:11:14 | |
Just just been one of those guys that's a rock solid performer. Shows up every day, puts in an honest day's work for an honest | 00:11:19 | |
day's pay. | 00:11:22 | |
He's very well respected within the law enforcement community, especially in our jail, not just by the officers but also by the | 00:11:26 | |
inmates. And that's something that that said something because he was earning a respect. | 00:11:30 | |
By treating them fair, firm and consistent, which Jeff is just the he's a model of what a correction deputy should be. We're going | 00:11:35 | |
to miss you, but you earned it. Thanks, Jeff. Congratulations. | 00:11:40 | |
Of course you couldn't. That's why. No being without my family being, you know, being blessed with the understood. | 00:11:53 | |
We doing this. | 00:12:00 | |
You know in it's been a blessing for 34 years to do this with some of the greatest people in the world and working for some of the | 00:12:02 | |
greatest bosses, working for three of the greatest sheriffs. | 00:12:07 | |
Ohh. | 00:12:13 | |
I mean it's it's been fantastic. It's. | 00:12:14 | |
Little wonderful sign for 30-4 years and I'm getting. | 00:12:18 | |
Broken up talking about it. | 00:12:22 | |
It's happy to be at this point. It's also bittersweet because this is what I've known for 34 years. | 00:12:25 | |
You know, it's been an honor. It's been my honor to serve the. | 00:12:31 | |
Citizens of Weld County in this capacity. | 00:12:34 | |
Thank you everybody for everything. | 00:12:38 | |
Mr. James. | 00:12:56 | |
Jeff, thank you so much for your service to the citizens of of of Weld County. Obviously your your commitment is is unparalleled. | 00:12:58 | |
I've been in my chosen profession for 41 years and I'm at the point where I hate it. So for you to be 34 years in the in in your | 00:13:05 | |
career is, is is outstanding. Thank you for your service Sir. We appreciate it. | 00:13:13 | |
Mr. Falkenberg, I just want to thank you all so, so much for your years of service. You have apparently have become the legend of | 00:13:21 | |
what it is to to do what you do. So I just want to thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. | 00:13:27 | |
Mr. Ross, congratulations. I mean, as a staunch supporter of law enforcement, you guys are put. | 00:13:35 | |
In a barrage of gunfire every day, whether that's live bullets or not, and the fact that you did this career in the jail, my hat | 00:13:40 | |
goes off to you. Knowing the struggles that law enforcement officers across the state faced on a daily basis. You must be a St. | 00:13:46 | |
because it's not an easy job and and I couldn't do it. I'm not strong enough. But but you are. So thank you. Thank you. Appreciate | 00:13:52 | |
it. | 00:13:58 | |
Achieved. Strengthen as you're leaving. | 00:14:05 | |
And I can poorly add to a lifetime of service. And thank you so much for. | 00:14:08 | |
Doing what you do and you help with the law and order our community so the rest of us can do jobs like these. | 00:14:13 | |
Or we can go be bakers. Or we can be lawyers and do all these other things. So thank you so much for protecting us and protecting | 00:14:21 | |
us honorable and society and. | 00:14:25 | |
Treating those that are incarcerated with dignity and respect. | 00:14:29 | |
You know, I would say, Commissioner James, as I understand, where you are hating your job after 41 years. | 00:15:02 | |
And I'm only 10 1/2, so with that we'll come down and take a picture. | 00:15:08 | |
It's a 2:00 AM alarm. | 00:15:17 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 00:15:23 | |
Yeah. | 00:15:25 | |
You're on the other side. | 00:15:31 | |
The first. | 00:15:38 | |
OK, we're all smiling. We're happy. Awesome, 123. Thank you, guys. | 00:15:40 | |
Quantity. | 00:15:46 | |
Nice. | 00:15:49 | |
Thank you. Thank you so much. | 00:15:50 | |
Thank you. Appreciate you. | 00:15:55 | |
Thanks for your help. | 00:16:04 | |
I just need for everything. | 00:16:08 | |
Yes, my brother, it's awesome. | 00:16:11 | |
It's good to see you. | 00:16:14 | |
OK, let's start on the other proclamations. Reunification Month, June 2023. | 00:16:28 | |
Come up, Jamie, and whoever you've got. | 00:16:34 | |
Um, whereas the families the primary source of love, identity, self-esteem and support for children and adults and provides the | 00:16:36 | |
foundation of our communities. | 00:16:40 | |
Reunified with their children those families currently working through the process and many support staff who help these families | 00:17:15 | |
now therefore be it proclaimed by the Board of Weld County Commissioners the June 2023 be known as Reunification Month in Weld | 00:17:21 | |
County and urges all residents to join us in this special observation, observance and supportive families and signed by. | 00:17:28 | |
Having a mic change right now. Thank you so much Commissioners, junior with Department of Human Services Director, really | 00:17:39 | |
appreciate the recognition on reunification Month. And today we have a lot of folks here from our shop and I'm going to introduce | 00:17:46 | |
to you in a little bit. But first I want to talk a little bit about Reunification Month. So every June we celebrate National | 00:17:53 | |
Reunification Month in an effort to recognize the health. | 00:17:59 | |
That we do to help keep families together. This first thing is we believe in the resiliency and strength of families and that | 00:18:06 | |
focuses on three primary areas. The 1st is when children cannot remain safely with their parents and need to enter foster care. | 00:18:12 | |
Reunifying them with family remains the primary goal. | 00:18:19 | |
The second is authentic equitable family engagement and integrating the voice of the children, youth and families into the case | 00:18:25 | |
planning and court processes. And the third is enhancing both parent and foster parent partnerships to improve the foster care | 00:18:32 | |
experience for children, youth and parents when the child's removal from the home is necessary, and to support reunification. | 00:18:39 | |
Our official day for celebrations in Weld County this year is June 23rd, 2023. That will be held at the courthouse and we'll be | 00:18:46 | |
able to share stories regarding successful reunification. | 00:18:53 | |
Ohh stories with our child welfare staff of the judges, service providers, attorneys and GL. And just for give a couple of | 00:19:01 | |
thoughts on on reunification. In twenty 2261% of the closed child growth welfare cases resulted in the unification and so far this | 00:19:08 | |
year we've had 51% of our child welfare cases that have resulted in reunification. I would like to recognize the staff that are | 00:19:16 | |
here today and then after we recognize them. | 00:19:24 | |
Do you have a family here today that were successfully reunified based on their hard work and dedication? And I'd also like to | 00:19:31 | |
recognize them. | 00:19:36 | |
So if I call your name, please stand up. And if you would stay standing so we can kind of recognize you all together. We have | 00:19:41 | |
Tammy Grant. She's our deputy Director of Human Services. | 00:19:46 | |
Heather Rocker, child Welfare director. | 00:19:51 | |
Robin Overmyer, Child welfare deputy director. | 00:19:54 | |
So we regulate child welfare resource manager. | 00:19:57 | |
Jeremy Irons, Health Offer Permanency Manager. | 00:20:00 | |
Servant from Timothy Ferris, Child Walker Permanency Supervisor. Annie Jade, Child Welfare Permanency Supervisor. Jackie | 00:20:03 | |
Underwood, Child Welfare Permanency Supervisor Lauren Hayes, Child Welfare Permanency Supervisor. | 00:20:11 | |
Brandy Puckett Adoptions caseworker Travis Denning Child welfare permanency supervisor Kate Moneymaker Child welfare permanency | 00:20:19 | |
worker Jackie Rivas, Child Walker permanency worker boy Pampa Child welfare permanency worker. Alba Chavez child welfare | 00:20:27 | |
permanency worker Lucy Ruiz, child welfare permanency worker Alex Moran, Illinois child welfare foster care Coordinator. | 00:20:36 | |
We're calling Morocco Child Welfare Foster Care Coordinator and Michelle Cervantes, Child Welfare Permanency Worker. These are the | 00:20:45 | |
folks that work every single day, year round, really helping to provide supports to families so that they can have those children | 00:20:51 | |
remain in safe environments. The dedication of the the folks standing before you today is just amazing and we just really want to | 00:20:57 | |
recognize their hard work. | 00:21:04 | |
Thank you all. You may be seated. | 00:21:16 | |
We're going to recognize as Cesar Varela Martinez, who is here with us today. | 00:21:19 | |
Naruto standout for us, please. | 00:21:24 | |
Do you have the hard work of Mr. Martinez? He was able to reunify with his little young son there and we're just so pleased that | 00:21:28 | |
he was committed to everything that needed to happen in order to reunify and wish him all the best of luck in the future so they | 00:21:34 | |
can for Mr. Morrison. | 00:21:40 | |
That's it. | 00:21:53 | |
Comments. | 00:21:55 | |
What is your messy? I know that's from from certainly personal experience. | 00:21:57 | |
And we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. | 00:22:01 | |
Second chances are to 0. | 00:22:08 | |
Thank you for providing those. | 00:22:12 | |
Fillmore, Klein, Mr. Bush, Ohh. Thanks James. | 00:22:15 | |
So I am first opportunity I had when I get to be coordinator for Human Services and I got to do a ride along for a foster | 00:22:21 | |
situation. And I'll never ever forget just my little small glimpse of what you do. My heart goes out and. | 00:22:30 | |
With so much gratitude and thank you so much for caring so much about the family and or how does involved a lot with. | 00:22:39 | |
Foster kids and Rob and I always see you here all the time when we're. | 00:22:46 | |
Honoring Human Services in in Jamie and and Tammy. I can't say all of your names, but really you truly make well. Accounting. So | 00:22:50 | |
very special, so very proud. | 00:22:55 | |
Thank you. | 00:23:02 | |
Dry rose. | 00:23:03 | |
None. | 00:23:04 | |
I'm gonna give him the tires. | 00:23:06 | |
But I am extremely excited for all of you. I hear these statistics, Jamie, that you you you spell out 62%, I believe you said last | 00:23:10 | |
year we're on pace for 51% this year for unification. | 00:23:15 | |
That's hard work that doesn't come easily, and that's a true testament. | 00:23:20 | |
To your guys's. | 00:23:27 | |
Not only efforts but your expertise and and your big hearts in this arena. So I truly commend you because. | 00:23:28 | |
That's that's awesome. It's doing the right thing for the right reason. | 00:23:36 | |
In an extremely difficult position and and my hats off to you. So great job and keep up the great work. Thank you. | 00:23:40 | |
Saying. | 00:23:49 | |
Doug created institutional family and that is that's where a child thrives but in. | 00:23:50 | |
Case where we humans fails, Commissioner James said. | 00:23:55 | |
That that second chance, the mercy grace, the the, the working through. | 00:23:59 | |
Those processes to reunite that child with that family. I hope that is the highest score of any. | 00:24:03 | |
Department of Human Services, regardless of where the artist in the state or in the nation that. | 00:24:08 | |
I just want to commend everybody who's. | 00:24:13 | |
That is your goal too. | 00:24:16 | |
Do you like children that they are #1 as far as consideration of safety and Wellness? | 00:24:18 | |
And thank you so much for committing to families. Thank you. | 00:24:24 | |
And I would agree with everything that's been said, you know. | 00:24:28 | |
Getting kids back with their parents is the ultimate goal, and it's such a success when it actually happens. | 00:24:32 | |
So and and that's a huge percentage that you're able to get that done with. So that that just that just goes to show the | 00:24:38 | |
dedication that you that you and your staff have in in helping people get to that spot because sometimes there's some real big | 00:24:44 | |
hurdles to get there. And so thank you for what you guys do every day for the kids, for the kids of rural county. | 00:24:49 | |
That. | 00:24:56 | |
Why don't we take a picture? | 00:24:58 | |
We'll see you guys. | 00:25:02 | |
They've been. They know how to get ready for a picture. | 00:25:06 | |
We practiced this, right? | 00:25:09 | |
Alright. | 00:25:16 | |
Hello. | 00:25:24 | |
You wanna take a selfie? We got this other. | 00:25:26 | |
Student type posting. | 00:25:29 | |
Ohh. | 00:25:33 | |
All. They're overloading the side, Jamie. I thought you said they were pros. | 00:25:35 | |
Watch out into the east there. | 00:25:41 | |
Are we all in? Do we have a few more people kind of squeeze in or maybe do a second row? It's kind of. | 00:25:46 | |
So. | 00:25:53 | |
We get you guys to come in. I can't get everybody in the frame here. | 00:25:56 | |
OK, 123. | 00:26:05 | |
123. | 00:26:10 | |
Thank you, Thank you. Congratulations you very much. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. Have a wonderful day. | 00:26:13 | |
OK. | 00:26:21 | |
Father. | 00:26:24 | |
Thank you everyone. | 00:26:28 | |
OK, Now we move on to Williams General Warrants of June 6, 2023. | 00:26:46 | |
YouTube. | 00:26:51 | |
Multiple second moved by Mr. James, second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries bids. | 00:26:53 | |
Number one could there be 2300107 Chase Building Renovation, 822 Seven St. Facilities Department. | 00:27:00 | |
Good morning, Carolyn Geiser, purchasing. | 00:27:09 | |
As advertised, this bid is for the renovation of the first, second, 6th and 7th floors of the Chase Building. Low bid is from TCC | 00:27:12 | |
Corporation and read specifications. Therefore, the Facility Facilities Department is recommending the award to TCC Corporation in | 00:27:19 | |
the amount of five million, 598 dollars, $1000 and fives. | 00:27:27 | |
Let me start over again there 5,000,000. | 00:27:36 | |
$1,598,005. | 00:27:39 | |
Good question. | 00:27:45 | |
Mr. Chair moved to approve bid number B 2300107. | 00:27:46 | |
Second moved by Commissioner Ross, Second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor opposed motion carries. | 00:27:52 | |
#2 | 00:27:58 | |
Present there be 2300119 Courthouse annex roof replacement facilities department. | 00:27:59 | |
Purchasing department has received one bid. | 00:28:06 | |
It has been forwarded to the facilities department for review. We will be back on April 8th, feedback for approval on June. | 00:28:09 | |
21st. | 00:28:17 | |
Take any questions. OK, That's includes bids. Thank you. Move on to new business #1. Consider contract ID 770572023. Paul | 00:28:18 | |
Coverdell, Forensic Science improvement grant application and acceptance of application changes form and authorized Director of | 00:28:25 | |
Northern Colorado Regional, Colorado Regional Forensic Laboratory assignments and electronically. Good morning, commissioners. | 00:28:32 | |
Alan Caldwell for the Sheriff's Office. I'm here on behalf. | 00:28:39 | |
Over the Lab director Darren Ford, who cannot be here today. | 00:28:46 | |
The Regional Crime Lab has been awarded $28,375 in training funds. | 00:28:51 | |
From incorporated all formula grant. | 00:28:58 | |
The lab has utilized this brand for the past several years. | 00:29:01 | |
To train and certify analysts from all partnered agencies. This grant does not require matching funds. | 00:29:06 | |
The grant funding will be provided as SCUSE ME. The grant funding will provide funds to cover both tuition and travel for seven | 00:29:14 | |
courses. | 00:29:18 | |
The identified training includes one staff member to attend the American Society of Crime Lab Directors and Leadership course. | 00:29:23 | |
3 Certification courses for the digital forensic examiners, 3 courses for the latent print examiners and funding for one firearms | 00:29:33 | |
examiner to attend the Association of Firearms and Tool Mark Examiner Conference Shares Office recommends the Board accept the | 00:29:40 | |
grant award of $28,375. | 00:29:48 | |
Options move to approve a contract ID 70572023 Second move by Mr. Ross, Second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor Opposed motion | 00:29:57 | |
carries. | 00:30:02 | |
Thank you #2. Consider renewal application for fermented bulk milk beverage on premise county license and authorized chair sign | 00:30:09 | |
and DBA Prolia fleets. | 00:30:15 | |
Chairman, this is a renewal. | 00:30:21 | |
This is one of those that is located in the county, even though it's surrounded by Garden City, Evans and Greeley. | 00:30:24 | |
Um, we have just a few of those. | 00:30:32 | |
So I've reviewed the application and also the referrals. | 00:30:35 | |
No one's got any concerns recommend approval. | 00:30:41 | |
OK. | 00:30:44 | |
And back to the board. Approved. Second, I'm not like Mr. Buck. Second like Mr. Ross to approve. All in favor. Opposed motion | 00:30:45 | |
carries #3. Consider renewal application for a hotel and restaurant county liquor license and authorized to sign Reese Diner at | 00:30:51 | |
Dillard's LLC. Doing business as these diner at Dillard's chairman. This is located in Galeton. We have no concerns for | 00:30:57 | |
recommending approval. | 00:31:03 | |
OK, Mr. I apologize. Mr. Chair moved to approve the license. Moved by Commissioner Ross. Second by Commissioner James. Approve All | 00:31:10 | |
in favor. Opposed motion carries. | 00:31:15 | |
From Continent business, we're going to planning number one consider contract ID 6978, partial release of collateral and | 00:31:21 | |
acceptance of warranty warranty collateral for use by special review from the USSR 18-0065 Waste Management Disposal Services | 00:31:27 | |
Colorado, Inc. | 00:31:32 | |
Good morning, Commissioners Jasmine Trio Martinez with the Department of Planning Services. In regard to the Improvements in Rd. | 00:31:38 | |
Maintenance Agreement for Waste Management Disposal Services of Colorado, Incorporated, I submitted a pass around for your review | 00:31:45 | |
dated May 9th, 2023, which was signed by all 5 County Commissioners. We respectfully request the Board accept the reduction of | 00:31:52 | |
project project collateral in the amount of $623,247.39. | 00:32:00 | |
To the warranty collateral amount of $93,487.11 provided in the form of a bond rider to the original performance bond number LICX | 00:32:07 | |
1197283 issued by the Lexon Insurance Company and to be retained for the duration of the two year warranty period. Waste | 00:32:15 | |
Management has completed the required improvements and the Development Review Inspector and Public Works inspectors have inspected | 00:32:23 | |
and signed off on all improvements. | 00:32:31 | |
We are only requesting the reduction of the collateral and the terms of the road meat into agreement. | 00:32:39 | |
Will remain in effect for the life of the USSR. Thank you for your consideration on this item. | 00:32:44 | |
OK, what have any questions? | 00:32:50 | |
Move to Approve and move by Commissioner Buck. Second by Commissioner James to approve All in favor opposed motion carries. Thank | 00:32:53 | |
you #2 Second reason. Code Ordinance 2023-07. In the night of repealing and reenacting with amendments. Chapter 17 Public Places | 00:33:00 | |
of the world County Code Camping on public properties Agreed by title only. Second like Mr. James Second by Commissioner. Roster | 00:33:07 | |
read by title only. All in favor. Opposed motion carries Ordinance 2023-07 in the Meadow. | 00:33:15 | |
In acting. | 00:33:23 | |
With the members Chapter 17, Public Places of the World can code camping on public properties. We have no changes since the first | 00:33:24 | |
reading. | 00:33:29 | |
Questions of staff OK, this is a public hearing. Is there anybody in the public that wishes to come forward and discuss Code | 00:33:35 | |
Ordinance 2023-07? | 00:33:38 | |
Good morning, commissioners. My name is Steve Chiefs. I'm greedy. I just got a question or two of them. Actually one of them is. | 00:34:00 | |
Could you give me a little more insight about this? | 00:34:12 | |
Code Ordinance #1 and #2 where the people gonna go? | 00:34:18 | |
So go ahead. Well, I'll start off Steve and Bruce, if I just speak, please correct me. | 00:34:28 | |
This is saying you can't do overnight camping in public spaces inside unincorporated Weld County. So right now we don't have any | 00:34:37 | |
enforcement tools for our law enforcement officers should they come across somebody that's really camping where they shouldn't be | 00:34:44 | |
camping. And so this gives our law enforcement officers that enforcement tool that they can use to do it. There's multiple | 00:34:51 | |
homeless shelters here in Greeley that. | 00:34:59 | |
We can refer them to should we come across those individuals. So yeah, like the Guadalupe Center, you have various others where | 00:35:07 | |
individuals can go. So that's that's some of the knowledge I know about it. If anybody else would like to speak, feel free. | 00:35:15 | |
I think that pretty much covers. | 00:35:23 | |
Well, what I know, Gary, passenger doesn't have much room. They're very limited and then we got the cold weather shelter closed as | 00:35:28 | |
well and we need that. So year round, not just during the winter time. | 00:35:35 | |
So does that include people sleeping in their cars? | 00:35:45 | |
It's a good like it does. It does. OK. Thank you. | 00:35:51 | |
OK, any other public input? | 00:35:56 | |
On this code ordinance. | 00:35:59 | |
Techie Normal. Closer number it back to the board. | 00:36:02 | |
I should move to approve on second reading Code Ordinance 2023 Dash 07 second. | 00:36:07 | |
It's been moved like Mr. James, second like Mr. Ross to approve. | 00:36:12 | |
Any further discussion all in favor, aye, opposed motion carries. | 00:36:16 | |
#3 Emergency Code Ordinance 2023-08 in the matter. | 00:36:21 | |
In Chapter 21 Areas and Activities of State Interest of the Weld County Code Moratorium of 1041 s s. | 00:36:27 | |
Chairman, I was asked to put together this emergency code ordinance. | 00:36:34 | |
For the purposes of doing a moratorium. | 00:36:39 | |
On 1041 solar energy facilities. | 00:36:42 | |
And this would go until December 1st of 2023. | 00:36:46 | |
I do have a suggestion that would be. | 00:36:51 | |
To modify that so that you could. | 00:36:54 | |
How that if? | 00:36:58 | |
The after. | 00:36:59 | |
Working on this, having some stakeholder meetings. | 00:37:01 | |
You get it done before, then it would make it so that on. | 00:37:05 | |
On first reading of any changes. | 00:37:09 | |
The moratorium would go away. | 00:37:12 | |
So that modification would be. | 00:37:16 | |
At the end of the paragraph talks about the moratorium. | 00:37:19 | |
Umm. | 00:37:24 | |
Right. I was asked put this together and I did so and I fully support the the, your, your changes in that. The intention of this | 00:37:25 | |
was not made long term. The intention of this was not to make it go forever. It was, it was simply to have the opportunity to have | 00:37:32 | |
some stakeholder meetings, put some things in place and and hopefully have first reading within the next 30 to 60 days. | 00:37:39 | |
So I fully support that change in the and I worked on that language late yesterday and I will send it to all of you and to the | 00:37:46 | |
clerk. | 00:37:50 | |
So we probably need a motion to make that amendment to the to the resolution. Yes. Give me a minute. Sure. | 00:37:56 | |
OK. You want to open it up If you'd like to, you could do that or if there's anyone else. | 00:38:05 | |
Who would speak on the subject? | 00:38:10 | |
I'm fine with. Go ahead and and. | 00:38:13 | |
And open it up to the public law and then everybody will have a chance to see it, says the rest of the board. Comfortable with | 00:38:16 | |
that? I am. Yeah, I appreciate that. We did not take it off the agenda that. | 00:38:21 | |
We have the people here to speak on this and so I'm glad they're here. Good with that, we'll open it up for public input. | 00:38:26 | |
Everybody can have up to 3 minutes to come up and and discuss this code ordinance, so anybody would like to come and speak. | 00:38:33 | |
Yeah, please. | 00:38:42 | |
Please just state your name and address for the record, Troy. Thank you. OK, Yeah. | 00:38:44 | |
Please. | 00:38:51 | |
Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the Board of Commission. My name is Troy Whitmore. I'm Vice President of Public Affairs for | 00:38:54 | |
United Power Electric Cooperative that's based in Brighton, Co. | 00:39:00 | |
Serves about 40% of our 107,000 meters. | 00:39:06 | |
In Rogue County. | 00:39:10 | |
With perhaps 50 to 60% of our load in your county due to the thriving economy and the multiple users of of our commodity here in | 00:39:12 | |
Weld County. | 00:39:19 | |
We're here today just to to speak a little bit on clarifying on on the. | 00:39:27 | |
More time certainly we're we're not in in favor of any delays. | 00:39:32 | |
Um, because of some situations that I'd like to to brief you on. | 00:39:36 | |
In May of next year, we would be leaving our power supplier Tri-state Generation and Sam and the transmission. And the reason | 00:39:40 | |
we're leaving is to better able to meet our goals of affordability. | 00:39:46 | |
For our members, along with reliability and sustainability. | 00:39:53 | |
And with that comes the need to cite solar along with battery storage and natural gas generation within your county. Because of | 00:39:57 | |
the low within well county some of these locations, many of these locations especially for battery storage and even some of the | 00:40:04 | |
solar will be in or near our already created substations and others and and oil and gas. | 00:40:12 | |
Basins nearby, the facilities that are already cited. | 00:40:20 | |
By our friends in the oil and gas industry. | 00:40:24 | |
Now personally, I line up with you all. | 00:40:27 | |
On my frustrations with our ever changing regulations and the game changing. | 00:40:31 | |
Almost surely in our industry. | 00:40:37 | |
But. | 00:40:40 | |
We have to play within the rules that are given to us, whether it comes from. | 00:40:41 | |
Three weeks or whatever comes from Brighton. | 00:40:46 | |
Or comes from Denver. Yikes. And Washington, DC. | 00:40:49 | |
Because of our Certificate of Public convenience and necessity granted to us by the Colorado PUC. | 00:40:55 | |
We have an obligation to serve all comers. Anybody that's in our service territory, we have to serve. | 00:41:02 | |
With electric power. And by golly, it better be safe, it better be reliable, and it better be affordable. | 00:41:08 | |
With the continuous growth in in world and Adams County, we will be seeing probably a 600 MW peak load this summer and it won't be | 00:41:16 | |
long before there'll be 700 megawatts and maybe even within my career 1000 megawatts because of the need for electrification. | 00:41:25 | |
And oil and gas areas with our electric vehicles and the move to electrify a lot of the necessities in our homes, we will need | 00:41:34 | |
small, medium and large solar applications in our toolbox to meet these needs. But I emphasize coupled with battery storage and | 00:41:42 | |
with fossil fuels, we will have coal in our portfolio for the foreseeable future. But it is going away as you all know and we | 00:41:49 | |
certainly will be needing the product that is produced so well. | 00:41:57 | |
And so viciously here in rural County, that being natural gas to meet our needs when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't | 00:42:04 | |
blowing. | 00:42:09 | |
Our facilities in in this area will provide homegrown Well County electric power to Weld County members of the United Power and | 00:42:15 | |
besides providing reliable, affordable power to Weld County farms and businesses. | 00:42:22 | |
Well sites, municipal and county facilities, schools and churches, and the list goes on and on. These will provide tax revenue to | 00:42:30 | |
well county government and the citizens that use so diligently serve. | 00:42:36 | |
This morning at 7:30 I had a few moments to visit with our our CEO, Mark Gabriel. Most of you know him and he sends regrets that | 00:42:44 | |
he can't be here today due to other obligations. But here's 5 Boris that kind of reiterates what I said. | 00:42:51 | |
Certainly more succinctly. That's why he's the boss and I apologize on a hard deadline for power supply needs to support its | 00:42:58 | |
members by May 1, 2024. It's critical that we have local resources of all kinds, gas, storage and solar. To meet the needs of oil | 00:43:05 | |
and gas industry and agriculture industry in your county, it's critical that we keep tax revenues local. | 00:43:12 | |
To support our communities health. | 00:43:20 | |
Work cooperative. So we are very committed to our local communities. | 00:43:22 | |
We're concerned that the expansion of the grid and other resources will not happen in time. | 00:43:26 | |
That's why I'm here. | 00:43:31 | |
Our goal is to provide lower cost resources for our members immediately. | 00:43:32 | |
And for the long term. | 00:43:36 | |
So with that being said, if the moratorium passes, we ask you to be expeditious and working with us. | 00:43:39 | |
To to lift the moratorium. | 00:43:46 | |
We would prefer and great respect to. | 00:43:49 | |
Mr. Baker and Mr. Parco, it sounds like that's already been taken care of, that we could shorten that deadline maybe 90 days | 00:43:52 | |
instead of six months. | 00:43:56 | |
You are lost very well and we pledge that we will be here to work with you. | 00:44:01 | |
And thanks to the wonderful, crazy Rd. it only takes me 41 minutes to get here and the sheriff's behind me. And that's what they | 00:44:06 | |
did. | 00:44:10 | |
So you know, you can count on us. We'll be here. So thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Have a question for, for Troy. | 00:44:16 | |
Troy, do you have any projects currently in the works? This is specifically related to projects of 160 acres or greater. So this | 00:44:24 | |
doesn't touch or or or even have any change whatsoever on any projects smaller than 160 acres. It's those larger than 160 acres | 00:44:31 | |
that go through our 1041 process. | 00:44:38 | |
You currently have any in the works on that because right now from what I'm under the understanding, none have been submitted to | 00:44:45 | |
our planning department. At this point. I do not believe that we have anything over 160 acres submitted. We are in pre planning on | 00:44:51 | |
several battery locations at our substations and this is a time about that, a little bit earlier today, but it will not be long | 00:44:57 | |
when you will see us for some bigger projects. There's several in the works. So we're just concerned that if we kick the can down | 00:45:04 | |
the road. | 00:45:10 | |
Too far, too long. | 00:45:16 | |
And this moratorium goes 14 months, 18 months to have a real detrimental effect on us doing these kind of projects in this county. | 00:45:17 | |
And so is our members that come to us wanting to do these kind of projects somewhere in AG, yes. And and we understand the | 00:45:25 | |
complications there, but also some are in industrial areas right now right next to. | 00:45:33 | |
Well field facilities. | 00:45:41 | |
And one of our solar power solar farms is right in the mix. | 00:45:43 | |
And you can almost see it from Crossy Rd. but you can't quite see it from Kersey Rd. Wonderful facility serves oil and gas. So | 00:45:47 | |
we're just concerned about. | 00:45:51 | |
Delight. | 00:45:56 | |
Because when this hits, it's going to hit in a big way, and it's to be critical to our members that we move rapidly to make sure | 00:45:57 | |
that we have what we need to to serve them affordably. | 00:46:02 | |
Conveniently and to reap the benefits for the whole county. | 00:46:08 | |
Government World County citizens appreciate that. Yes. Do you guys serve other counties besides, well, county? Yes we do and I I | 00:46:12 | |
neglected in my notes we we're in six counties. | 00:46:17 | |
The bulk of our of our load is in atoms and wealth. | 00:46:22 | |
But we also are seeing a a bit of growth in Bloomfield if you know the Highway 7, Broomfield. | 00:46:26 | |
UM area, it's growing quite rapidly as well. So we have a lot of industrial tilt up buildings in Adams well in Broomfield going up | 00:46:31 | |
right and left and we know that there will be a lot of of low need there. So we really do envision the same kind of ask and | 00:46:38 | |
welfare and Adams County has enrolled county because of the growth just across the border and as you know there's some | 00:46:46 | |
opportunities around the International Airport. We'll be looking at those but the other ones as well. | 00:46:54 | |
And I can see probably more community solar type projects in the more suburban areas than here. | 00:47:01 | |
But we're open to those as well. | 00:47:08 | |
Thank you. | 00:47:11 | |
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. And I want to just say thank you so much for serving your members. So I'm. I represent a lot of United | 00:47:12 | |
Power members in my district as you well know and. | 00:47:17 | |
Um so I just, I just want to thank you that for for that and and then speaking yesterday about energy choice and and how that's | 00:47:22 | |
important not only to United Power but also to your members as well and. | 00:47:27 | |
The possibility of having some economies of scale actually driving some of those consumer prices down. | 00:47:34 | |
Which is of interest to me as well, because I hear a lot of people suffering. Taxes are going up, their energy rates are going up, | 00:47:41 | |
everything's going up, food's going up and it's it's really the wrong time to put doubt. | 00:47:46 | |
Into any processes that might increase cost for consumers and often. | 00:47:52 | |
My concern is more trends often have a joint effect on business and private property owners. So I just want to thank you so much | 00:47:58 | |
for coming forward. And and I do want to restate for the audience and because there's a statement that was made earlier, but had | 00:48:04 | |
this been taken off the agenda, public comment would afford you the same amount of time to speak on the topic. So I just want to | 00:48:09 | |
make sure you knew that you would still have an opportunity to speak on this policy regardless. | 00:48:14 | |
Rates are at our forefront because of the times that we are going through. | 00:48:21 | |
We've not had a rate increase of any significance in three years. | 00:48:25 | |
We thought we may have to do that this year, but because of growth and economies of scale, I think we're going to be able to go | 00:48:29 | |
another year, our goal in departing. | 00:48:34 | |
The power supply that we were one of seven entities that fund is that we think that we're out of market on the pricing that we're | 00:48:39 | |
receiving and we can do better and we can do better by creating. | 00:48:45 | |
The jobs and the infrastructure in our Home Counties. So we prefer to do it in a big way. And Adams and Roll County first, we will | 00:48:52 | |
be buying from elsewhere. You know, the wind map is not good in the United Power and Weld County, but you don't have to go very | 00:49:00 | |
far north as Commissioner Freeman well knows. And the wind map is terrific. So you know, this county is. | 00:49:07 | |
A wealth of resources and we want to make sure that. | 00:49:16 | |
Our partnership continues to be strong with Weld County in the future. | 00:49:19 | |
Absolutely. OK. Thanks. Correct. Thank you. | 00:49:24 | |
Not a public input. Yes, Chairman, can I? Two things. One is I. | 00:49:28 | |
Sent that language to you. OK, the second thing is, and this is highly important for an emergency ordinance. | 00:49:32 | |
You need to state what the emergency is and so you know I I sort of teed that up and I think that'd be something that you should | 00:49:40 | |
articulate. So I think I think really there's there's only there's only one there's only one real emergency we have that we kind | 00:49:47 | |
of have that in place with transmission temporary and stuff and that is is when we talk about compatibility is completely | 00:49:55 | |
subjective subjective compatibility and I think the emergency is we would like in place on the objective. | 00:50:02 | |
Some things that are objective to for us as a board to be able to determine compatibility based on where these are at. It's all | 00:50:10 | |
about location. It's always been all about location. If we're out in the middle of wherever it is, let's do the transmission line | 00:50:17 | |
with no rules and no impact to the to moving to moving people that makes it much more easier to be able to say that's absolutely | 00:50:24 | |
compatible there. If we're talking about a huge solar facility that has. | 00:50:31 | |
25 homes surrounding it or 100 homes surrounding it. It makes it more difficult to determine if that's compatible if it's | 00:50:38 | |
compatible though, because. | 00:50:43 | |
Let's not mistake the fact that a solar facility, a huge full solar facility, looks industrial. It looks like an industrial site | 00:50:48 | |
and sort of be able to put some objective compatibility in place I think is important. | 00:50:54 | |
Is that state that fairly, fairly does OK? | 00:51:02 | |
Fairly, fairly, fairly fairly. OK Go ahead, state your name. | 00:51:06 | |
I'm not taking my head up, absolutely not of disrespect for you. I can't see with the solar lights or the. | 00:51:10 | |
Besides the reflection off in my head you wouldn't be able to see me. | 00:51:19 | |
Yeah. | 00:51:23 | |
I don't 46576 Road County Road 18465081 County Road 18. | 00:51:24 | |
My grandkids on both sides and Southeast 12 are 6 generations. I'm proud to be a residential a resident of Weld County. I am a | 00:51:32 | |
conservative Republican. | 00:51:37 | |
Ohh, I will never drive an electric car. I will break the horse out before I do that. | 00:51:43 | |
But I'm here to state today, honestly, how many of you ever been to Southeast Well? | 00:51:48 | |
OK, so 18 and 93, There's not a lot out there. I tell people my neighbors are carrots, spray dogs and rattlesnakes. I'm fine with | 00:51:54 | |
that. | 00:51:58 | |
I also think that I'm I'm in a service. | 00:52:03 | |
I was in Washington DC in the 70s with American Act. | 00:52:08 | |
One of the big concerns back then was as we see. | 00:52:12 | |
Agricultural ground taken up by urban sprawl. | 00:52:16 | |
Roads. | 00:52:20 | |
I understand that concern, but when I look at our area then I find time down the Southeast well that produced phenomenal heat. | 00:52:22 | |
That's not my place. | 00:52:31 | |
But these places back in COPD, I'm labeled by another gentleman that has 1100 acres of CRP. | 00:52:33 | |
There's 900 acres of pasture and there's 160 acres by a cousin that's owned. | 00:52:40 | |
That is flammable. | 00:52:46 | |
But in the year like last year, I think God daily at my place was in CRP because we're strong chosen N to me that are now covered | 00:52:48 | |
in sand. | 00:52:53 | |
So in negotiations with the solar company that I negotiated with, that was something that was. | 00:52:59 | |
Dog. | 00:53:07 | |
Immensely. And I I will go a lot to my children. I have two sons that are called school mines grads. | 00:53:08 | |
We send the four year high performance diesel mechanic in our life is. | 00:53:16 | |
And my wife, my daughter, is the director of. | 00:53:20 | |
Karina Development Hospital in Grand Junction. | 00:53:25 | |
All of that said, I struggled to graduate from high school. | 00:53:27 | |
I put the power in our decision in this project to them. | 00:53:31 | |
Because we are interested in how the land is used. | 00:53:34 | |
Marlin, Chunk and Radish were the energy company that I signed with. | 00:53:39 | |
You couldn't do. Better use than put server panels on it. | 00:53:44 | |
You couldn't. My dad tried to find it in strips. | 00:53:48 | |
Ohh, it was a train wreck. You can still see out there where during the 50s and 60s the rows in between the strips group you know | 00:53:52 | |
blew up like this. | 00:53:56 | |
So. | 00:54:01 | |
Umm. | 00:54:02 | |
It was also positive to those of you who remember the Side Buster book. | 00:54:05 | |
That type of ground work on project more so show. | 00:54:09 | |
Just on the edge, but then there should have been broke. | 00:54:12 | |
I would be opposed to solar plans panels going on some of the other fine ground South of lagging. We own that, we farm it. | 00:54:16 | |
It's very good Kingdom if you talk about land use. | 00:54:25 | |
This is a prime location. Morgan County did the same thing. Because I my island, another business in Morgan County, they put a | 00:54:30 | |
moratorium on it. | 00:54:34 | |
I think it's responsible. | 00:54:39 | |
They've got 75,000 acres is my understanding out. The old would be an oil field that's gone in with panels and. | 00:54:41 | |
Wind turbines. Some type of soil is mine. | 00:54:48 | |
So I guess any other question I have for you. You talked about a committee. I would like to serve on that committee. | 00:54:52 | |
Absolutely. We'll have stakeholder meetings on this. And and what you're talking about is exactly, is exactly was exactly what I | 00:54:59 | |
was talking about. Yeah, there's a compatible place for these and there's a place that's not. And we just need to be able to get | 00:55:03 | |
to that spot you get even. | 00:55:08 | |
The cousin that I referred to his 160 you get South of there and serve the topographical maps where my place, the best my dad ever | 00:55:13 | |
raised, was 30 bushel wheat, and I was on an exceptional year in the 70s. | 00:55:19 | |
You get salsa. There's 50 and 60 bushel plus sweet bro. | 00:55:25 | |
But I guess my encouragement as you spoke, I think it's something we have to look at. I don't like it. I spent 28 years, you know, | 00:55:29 | |
own gas on my lease on my phone I subject I. | 00:55:35 | |
Set up an additional 50 acres so that we can do a horizontal drill. | 00:55:41 | |
If we get an early start, comes in. | 00:55:45 | |
So. | 00:55:49 | |
I thank you for hearing me, but. | 00:55:50 | |
I think this is one. It's very fragile. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sir. | 00:55:53 | |
OK, other public input. | 00:55:57 | |
Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Mark Wyland and I live in Cleveland, and I would like to speak on the proposed moratorium | 00:56:08 | |
for 1041. | 00:56:14 | |
Future of energy in the nation and State Wild County. | 00:56:22 | |
Umm. | 00:56:27 | |
It will have to take a combination of sources, of course. Oil, gas will continue to be. | 00:56:29 | |
Employment in the future, but will also continue to diminish in availability as an energy source. | 00:56:34 | |
Resources are needed. | 00:56:44 | |
And this includes large server farms which will have a big impact on energy in the future. | 00:56:47 | |
And so it's very important. | 00:56:54 | |
And I also believe that there's an organization that does solar farming. | 00:56:59 | |
And that could be. | 00:57:04 | |
Put potentially used in the large. | 00:57:06 | |
Sort of formulas, but I. | 00:57:11 | |
I think it's really important. | 00:57:13 | |
The solar farms, large ones are needed. | 00:57:16 | |
As a as a part of our energy portfolio in the county. So thank you very much. Thank you. | 00:57:20 | |
OK, other public input. | 00:57:29 | |
Good morning, commissioners and staff. My name is Sharon Johnson and I live in Evans and thank you for this opportunity. | 00:57:38 | |
To speak, I am here in support of diversifying energy production. | 00:57:45 | |
Alright, sorry. | 00:57:50 | |
We already have a strong presence of oil and gas, but right now is the time to encourage the development of renewables like solar. | 00:57:52 | |
And wind. | 00:58:01 | |
And I don't think we have the luxury of putting robots. | 00:58:03 | |
In the way of such development. | 00:58:06 | |
And I feel like the moratorium on 1041 is a step backwards. | 00:58:09 | |
And I strongly oppose such an action. | 00:58:15 | |
And I expect, I expect our commissioners, you commissioners to provide both, both leadership during this time. | 00:58:18 | |
And I don't want Weld County to look like coal country. | 00:58:26 | |
In West Virginia, Wyoming. | 00:58:31 | |
In Kentucky, we we need a vital forward-looking county. | 00:58:34 | |
The leadership is crucial. | 00:58:39 | |
So Rd. residents and workers are not left behind. | 00:58:41 | |
From this inevitable transition. | 00:58:46 | |
Turntable energy. | 00:58:49 | |
So the message out that. | 00:59:20 | |
Um, you're not welcome, you know. | 00:59:23 | |
Solar solar maker, solar phones are not welcome. And I feel like that's a real detriment to the county. OK, thank you. | 00:59:26 | |
Other public comment. | 00:59:34 | |
Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, My name is Steve Gable. | 00:59:36 | |
I own and operate with my family, a commercial cattle feeding company. | 00:59:40 | |
On the Morgan and Weld County border southwest of Wiggins Co. | 00:59:46 | |
We also run about 600 mother cows and farm close to 5000 acres. | 00:59:51 | |
Of both irrigated and dry land. | 00:59:56 | |
I'm a 65 year old resident of Weld County. | 00:59:59 | |
I've been here my entire life. | 01:00:03 | |
And I'm here to support. | 01:00:06 | |
Our energy development partners. | 01:00:09 | |
And although I respect. | 01:00:13 | |
The approach that this Commission has taken with respect. | 01:00:16 | |
Not only to legacy and to energy production. | 01:00:21 | |
But also alternative sources of energy production. | 01:00:26 | |
I am sorry, Genova wrote on a moratorium. | 01:00:32 | |
Only because of the message that it sends. | 01:00:36 | |
I understand. And conversations. | 01:00:40 | |
But my families had with members of this Commission. | 01:00:43 | |
That it's only 60 days, maybe 90 at the most. | 01:00:47 | |
And while I respect that, I know that the development. | 01:00:52 | |
Partners that are involved in these projects. | 01:00:56 | |
Have considerable investments. | 01:01:00 | |
And any potential delay? | 01:01:02 | |
In their ability to permit and go forward. | 01:01:06 | |
Becomes cost prohibitive. | 01:01:10 | |
I agree with the comments that have been made about. | 01:01:14 | |
Put it for supposed to be. | 01:01:18 | |
I agree with Mr. Neil, but there are. | 01:01:21 | |
Parts of. | 01:01:24 | |
Southeastern Weld County, northeastern Weld County. | 01:01:26 | |
That are appropriate for these size operations. | 01:01:30 | |
We are currently. | 01:01:36 | |
Our contracted. | 01:01:37 | |
With the development company that is working on a 400. | 01:01:40 | |
To 650 MW project. | 01:01:44 | |
Given our locations as a family, we'll own about 15,000 acres of land. | 01:01:48 | |
Mostly in Weld County, but some in Morgan. | 01:01:55 | |
They're very close to to Mr. Neil's properties. | 01:01:59 | |
Uh, we've got property in northeastern Colorado, but in northeastern Weld County that would be ideal for this kind of facility. | 01:02:03 | |
And although I respect. | 01:02:13 | |
Your willingness to put brakes on and put some parameters around this kind of development. | 01:02:18 | |
I still encourage a no vote, mostly because of the message. | 01:02:24 | |
That it sends to the end users, to the power companies. | 01:02:29 | |
And to the development partners that are involved. | 01:02:33 | |
Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Steve. OK, further public input, Yeah. | 01:02:37 | |
Good morning, commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Matt Mooney. I work for Balanced Rock Power. I'm a | 01:02:46 | |
resident of Denver. | 01:02:50 | |
Working with the Cable family and Magnum feed lot, that's the location of our our project. | 01:02:55 | |
We submitted a PRE application. | 01:03:02 | |
A 12 county planning and October of last year we received favorable feedback. Also things we could do to improve our layout in our | 01:03:05 | |
site. | 01:03:09 | |
As you can probably guess, we're involved in the Excel procurement processes underway right now and this is a sensitive time for | 01:03:16 | |
us where it's, it's big stakes as as Mr. Gable mentioned. | 01:03:22 | |
Um, you know the, the, the sizes that we're talking about are pretty large, close to a billion dollars in CapEx. | 01:03:30 | |
When we reach. | 01:03:40 | |
The phase two process decision with Excel, there will be negotiations that occur around November and we're going to be asked to | 01:03:42 | |
pose significant amounts of security. | 01:03:48 | |
To solidify with Excel that we will be online when we say we will be and. | 01:03:54 | |
For the size of the projects we're talking about. | 01:04:00 | |
Those security announcer Well north of $50 million. | 01:04:02 | |
And for us? | 01:04:06 | |
Just in terms of our schedule. | 01:04:08 | |
We're preparing our application now for the the county to review. | 01:04:10 | |
Return submitted in August, early August and we would like to have you know. | 01:04:15 | |
At least, Scott, you completed the process, reached the decision. | 01:04:22 | |
Before we're faced in asking the investment community to close that security. | 01:04:26 | |
So that's window into what? | 01:04:31 | |
The blanket moratorium on the county and on the site that. | 01:04:35 | |
You know, to to date we understand this largely in one of the, you know, the appropriate areas. | 01:04:39 | |
Um would would be impact. We would be impacted by that. | 01:04:45 | |
So thank you for your time. Thank you. | 01:04:50 | |
Other public input. | 01:04:54 | |
Can I ask him how many acres did he say? | 01:04:56 | |
How many acres? | 01:05:00 | |
So our site straddles the county line, it's 8500 acres, 8500 approximately 4000 in Wells County. | 01:05:02 | |
4000 acres. | 01:05:12 | |
OK. | 01:05:15 | |
Hi, my name is Melissa Taylor. I'm with Ng North America actually flowing here for you with my address. I flew in here from Salt | 01:05:20 | |
Lake. I'm in very early development on some several different locations in Weld County and have ongoing relationships with our | 01:05:27 | |
project partners who are the land owners here. Wonderful people, always love coming to visit the county. They were unable, at | 01:05:34 | |
least a few ones I spoke to today were unable to make it today. | 01:05:41 | |
Assured that might come and kind of represents what is important to them, what's important to us. I can tell you from I hadn't | 01:05:48 | |
planned on making a comment on this, but when it comes to, you know whether these projects are cited, we are Angie is one of the | 01:05:56 | |
largest developers in North America. We actually got our start with building the Suez Canal. So we're always trying to look for | 01:06:04 | |
different solutions that serve everybody one of our earliest criterias for siding projects. | 01:06:11 | |
Is to. | 01:06:19 | |
Aggressively avoid but any residential areas or anything that might be construed in any way as being densely populated and have an | 01:06:21 | |
impact on the residences that are nearby. There was a lot of great arguments made today for the case of solar. I didn't come so | 01:06:28 | |
much to address that today. More of the moratorium and the message it sends. | 01:06:36 | |
I know private property is, I mean professionally and also personally. And I've discussed this with you know, the land owners with | 01:06:44 | |
partner with a very near and dear issue. I wanted to give you guys a quote from Russell Kirk is one of my original heroes and he | 01:06:52 | |
says that if you separate private property from private possession, Leviathan becomes master of all. So swapping governmental | 01:06:59 | |
heavy-handed, one-size-fits-all across everyone's land, even if it's temporary, it sends a message. | 01:07:07 | |
That. | 01:07:14 | |
There is going to be an abrupt stop of process and robust conversation. | 01:07:15 | |
It can lead to. | 01:07:22 | |
It's antithetical to healthy community and it's antithetical to the moral development of a community and society which must hold | 01:07:24 | |
an extremely high regard, the self governance and possession of private property. | 01:07:30 | |
And while Torium that might impact the project is going to detrimentally affect specifically some of the ranchers that I know. | 01:07:37 | |
Um, they're not super large ranchers. Their land isn't producing a lot. It's dry land. And this is enabling them to diversify | 01:07:48 | |
their land use so that they can actually expand their ranch. | 01:07:55 | |
I don't know of anyone that we are dealing with right now that is planning on using agricultural land. So I think it perhaps might | 01:08:04 | |
be a little bit of a straw man to say that you know we're just saying this to protect the farmland this this is land. We we very | 01:08:11 | |
carefully along with land owners always analyze where land is best for what use. And I think leaving that decision up to the | 01:08:18 | |
individual landowner and what they want to do with that is is just really. | 01:08:25 | |
Essential to the foundation of private property. Then they would those their feelings as well. | 01:08:33 | |
So. | 01:08:39 | |
That's it. OK. Thank you. | 01:08:41 | |
Other public comment. | 01:08:44 | |
Good morning, Commissioners. | 01:08:54 | |
My name is Craig Rasmussen. I'm a resident here of Greeley, 6600 W 20th St. Also have an office here in Greeley, fortunately. | 01:08:56 | |
And I will share with you. I'm standing here a little bit more. I'm tired because I didn't sleep at all last night because I heard | 01:09:07 | |
about this at 6:30 last night. | 01:09:11 | |
That upsets me personally because I brought business back to Weld County. | 01:09:15 | |
After living in Denver with my own gas company that this is deja vu, I feel like I'm back at the state capital Titan for. | 01:09:20 | |
An industry? | 01:09:31 | |
And to me it's it's not necessary. I'm gonna layout some some points and talking points for you guys to consider. Again, there was | 01:09:34 | |
zero time for us to prepare. I have four or five land owners. | 01:09:39 | |
But I love Charlie Dry Land land owners. | 01:09:45 | |
Crazy woman that wanted to be here, but because of the timing of this, they weren't able to be here. | 01:09:49 | |
I will share with you the one more time is fatal. It was fatal Durham gas in our state the investment opportunity. | 01:09:56 | |
God who is a pure company of ours with Balance Rock, we computed for the same leases that he's standing here talking about. We | 01:10:05 | |
fortunately picked up 20,000 acres of leased from all reputation of being an oil and gas company that did as they said they were | 01:10:12 | |
going to do and we're pouring our residents and folks who have to work with us. | 01:10:18 | |
About 6000 of those five of those 20,000 acres are in one county. There's no water. There is no active dry land farming happening. | 01:10:25 | |
This is Ross land that has water use that is extremely impactful for the families. | 01:10:34 | |
That we're going ahead and preparing to pay them hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of dollars an acre. | 01:10:43 | |
Throughout the right to develop on their property. These are gentlemen that unfortunately for them, we're just outside of your own | 01:10:50 | |
gas window that's on the I-76 corridor. It's eastern Weld County and they could not go ahead and get their minerals developed and | 01:10:58 | |
this is an opportunity for them to have a windfall financially for their family and their 456 generation farmers and ranchers. | 01:11:06 | |
Not sure why this is necessary. The things you're talking about for them understanding this is not my business, but you all know | 01:11:15 | |
you have pre applications in. | 01:11:20 | |
Do you business? | 01:11:26 | |
Grab stakeholders. | 01:11:28 | |
Grab your planners and put the processes you need in place to objectively go ahead. | 01:11:30 | |
And so you'll know to each location. | 01:11:35 | |
It's rather like what we did with with oil and gas all the way through. | 01:11:38 | |
I was very proud of our own gas days. We drove the nine different municipalities. | 01:11:42 | |
I don't want to go for the 1041 one time in Orland Gas, Weld County, but I had to go in front of Birth and Longmont in Johnstown | 01:11:47 | |
multiple times and crazy. | 01:11:52 | |
And eaten and really multiple times and we're always deals with said we were going to do and sometimes it flip and sometimes it | 01:11:57 | |
didn't and when it didn't. | 01:12:01 | |
It has to move on. If we as developers of Solar are not smart enough to know that you shouldn't be putting something under a set | 01:12:06 | |
of pivot and take an ad. | 01:12:11 | |
Well done. That's the least you wanna take. | 01:12:16 | |
Sure, my room. You probably just wasted money because it's probably not going to get through. | 01:12:19 | |
We share with you and we're doing our lease in the last eight months chasing the power pathway of XLS they're trying to turn on 6 | 01:12:25 | |
gigawatts of power in the next five years. | 01:12:30 | |
Hold that one goes through Washington County. | 01:12:35 | |
As we were doing our leasing. | 01:12:38 | |
The last year of time we did not reach out to 1 land owner in Washington County. | 01:12:41 | |
Because we didn't want to deal with the moratorium that Washington County had on renewables during that time. | 01:12:47 | |
Too bad for those land owners that could have gotten some revenue for land that is a good fit. | 01:12:54 | |
And there's good foot land here in Weld County. You guys can figure that out through your planning process? | 01:13:01 | |
So two more points for you. | 01:13:16 | |
Well, have you ever choose to really bring this business here because really in Weld County have always been to me home and the | 01:13:22 | |
opportunity to go ahead and be pro business? | 01:13:28 | |
And they were. | 01:13:35 | |
Sensible about everything we did if I had to go come September, October, November and look to get investors in on one of my 2 to | 01:13:37 | |
$400 million projects. | 01:13:44 | |
This. | 01:13:52 | |
And. | 01:13:53 | |
Those investors know that there was a moratorium. | 01:13:54 | |
Within the county, then working to get investment on. | 01:13:58 | |
Actually, the capital. | 01:14:01 | |
It's the same thing that I couldn't get done with oil and gas. It's the same reason I'm standing up here representing A renewable | 01:14:02 | |
company. | 01:14:06 | |
If Ryan Gas was a consolidated and the instrument out. | 01:14:10 | |
Problem that stand here talking today because I could still be employed here and gas business. | 01:14:15 | |
Grossly. | 01:14:20 | |
As I stated earlier. | 01:14:22 | |
To me this is very hasty and the word moratorium is very formal. | 01:14:24 | |
Thank you for your time. | 01:14:30 | |
Good morning and thank you for your time here. My name is Sam Wait and I'm representing balance track power as well. | 01:14:40 | |
And while I can't claim to have grown up in Wells County, I did grow up in central Illinois, not only service to share. | 01:14:45 | |
I deeply appreciate the need to preserve good agricultural land, and that need is stronger now more than ever. | 01:14:53 | |
However, this moratorium is going to negatively impact the projects. | 01:14:59 | |
But as has already been communicated, is going to benefit people. | 01:15:04 | |
Whose Land is Prime fit for Solar? | 01:15:08 | |
And to use the word of Commissioner Freeman, very compatible with what it is that you are looking for. | 01:15:11 | |
I don't want to give you information you already know and outline. | 01:15:17 | |
40 years worth of millions of dollars of tax credits that were tax revenue. Sorry, that will come into this county. | 01:15:21 | |
With these projects and more as the projects continue to be developed in this area. | 01:15:28 | |
This is information that you already have and doesn't deserve the time. | 01:15:34 | |
However, I'm very concerned. | 01:15:38 | |
That this moratorium will negatively impact all of the projects in this county. | 01:15:41 | |
As people hear that word, moratorium and they turn around and they run away. | 01:15:45 | |
I'll keep this short because. | 01:15:52 | |
If I want to make sure I'm respecting the time for the. | 01:15:55 | |
Presidents of Weld County. | 01:15:58 | |
But I want to make sure that we are properly thinking through. | 01:16:00 | |
The impacts as well as what the intention is. | 01:16:06 | |
The intention is to make sure that the projects that are moving forward in development are placed in compatible areas. I think | 01:16:10 | |
that is a process that can be accomplished through the systems that are currently in place. | 01:16:15 | |
Without a moratorium, that will scare away. | 01:16:21 | |
Potentially future millions and millions of dollars for this county. | 01:16:24 | |
And I hope. | 01:16:28 | |
That you're able to hear that from all of these people here today. Thank you for your time. Thank you. | 01:16:29 | |
The other question, Mr. Chair, excuse me if you don't mind. I have, I do have a question for you. Let's address the tax credits | 01:16:34 | |
and solar credits that you say you're coming to Well County, how does that benefit Well County tax revenue from the energy | 01:16:40 | |
generated And to speak to that more directly, if I'm being entirely honest, my role within balance right power is as a design | 01:16:45 | |
engineer. | 01:16:50 | |
So I'm. | 01:16:56 | |
Much more qualified to tell you about how the power is generated and the technology involved in that to get more details around | 01:16:58 | |
the tax credits and revenue that will come to the county itself. | 01:17:03 | |
I would like to defer to Mr. Moody here, who spoke earlier as a fellow representative of the same company. | 01:17:08 | |
Thank you. Any other public comment. | 01:17:16 | |
Good morning, Shane Edgington. I live in Windsor and for transparency Consultant and I represent several of the developers that | 01:17:24 | |
are working on solar projects in local county and around Colorado. | 01:17:29 | |
As you consider this moratorium. | 01:17:37 | |
I would caution the Commission on 3 levels. | 01:17:40 | |
First, the sort of. | 01:17:45 | |
Action moratorium. | 01:17:47 | |
It's typically not driven by the majority of public interest, it's driven by the squeaky wheel, personal interests and small | 01:17:50 | |
group. You shouldn't. You should be mindful of that as you consider this. | 01:17:56 | |
Moratoriums like this are historically anti business, anti revenue you've heard from. | 01:18:04 | |
Other developers are from the United Power. Very important. You haven't heard from anybody from Exile. I hope somebody is here, | 01:18:12 | |
but the key factor there is the timing of these. You heard United Powers deadlines Excel deadlines as they're considering projects | 01:18:18 | |
and there's a whole group of them. Meanwhile, County Excels guideline will be at the end of September. | 01:18:25 | |
A mother pointing like this will kill. | 01:18:33 | |
Most, if not all of those projects in consideration. | 01:18:37 | |
And speaking to the revenue issue, just property tax as a as a starter, the property taxes on a project and let's say 200 MW | 01:18:41 | |
project which is 1200 acres. | 01:18:47 | |
Millions like 10s and 20s and millions of dollars in tax revenue over the course of the project. | 01:18:55 | |
But there is an additional credits or anything on top of the property tax. | 01:19:04 | |
That I'm not aware of. Not that I'm aware. OK, I just make this right. Clarify. | 01:19:08 | |
2nd caution Is this right in an emergency? | 01:19:14 | |
You know, to do an emergency action like this, what I understood from Commissioner Freeman was we're trying to determine | 01:19:19 | |
subjectivity versus objectivity on compatibility. Well, what's changed? What counties? That's a pretty unique position to deal | 01:19:24 | |
with this sort of thing. | 01:19:30 | |
The the process is not in place and have been in place and you don't the industry that are already here, your processes are are | 01:19:38 | |
good enough to deal with this while you consider. | 01:19:42 | |
Why do you have stakeholder investment while you consider and try to come up with your objectivity? | 01:19:47 | |
But what's changed? What's the mergency right now? | 01:19:52 | |
Again, considering what's gonna happen to projects if more important goes in place. | 01:19:56 | |
I'm at a meeting if, if, if, if the Commission's gonna insist on moratorium. | 01:20:02 | |
It should be reasonable, in short. | 01:20:10 | |
Six months is too long again given the deadlines that that the developers and your utilities bumping up against. | 01:20:13 | |
And reasonableness, I think. | 01:20:21 | |
It would be very careful of what's your objective standards going to be and this is again the caution. This is for caution. | 01:20:25 | |
Moratoriums are happening all over the country. | 01:20:37 | |
And the reaction to those is what you should be concerned about the lot of. | 01:20:40 | |
Discussion about You don't want to be governed by Denver. | 01:20:47 | |
Yeah. | 01:20:50 | |
California put a lot more time in California counties put a lot more forums in. New York counties put a lot more emporiums. In, | 01:20:52 | |
most recently Illinois. The reaction to that was at the state level. The state came in and said OK. | 01:20:59 | |
If you're going to do this way, there's going to be state legislation governing the permitting projects like this. | 01:21:07 | |
Thermo is very good example, very similar, and the balance card guy can probably testify this. | 01:21:15 | |
Chicago runs the state politically. Lots of rural areas South of Chicago, people don't think about that. All the solar farms and | 01:21:22 | |
wind farms going in the rural areas, well, they start putting reforms in. Legislature came in and said, Nope, we're not gonna let | 01:21:28 | |
you do that here, You come in, you guys can force this, but here is the permanence. Here's your permanent process. I don't think | 01:21:34 | |
that's what you want here, but recognize your your current governor and your current administration and you can kind of see the | 01:21:40 | |
path. | 01:21:46 | |
My head down, so again I just caution you. | 01:21:52 | |
The more training Microsoft sends, a message anyway for more even lengthy moratorium is legislation in of itself. You need input | 01:21:55 | |
for that, and I understand you want to get to a point, but just be cautious about this if the terrible message is sent. | 01:22:04 | |
Thank you, Commissioner Davis. | 01:22:13 | |
Mr. Chairman, I just we discussed an emergency ordinance. I'm already have emergency loan, can we can have request 5 minutes to | 01:22:15 | |
reset please? | 01:22:19 | |
Commissioner. | 01:22:26 | |
OK, we're gonna go ahead and reconvene guys. | 01:32:15 | |
The other one. | 01:32:20 | |
Let's go, Let's go. Let's go ahead and reconvene. | 01:32:21 | |
Umm. | 01:32:24 | |
Excuse me, can I see a show hands? How many more people want to speak? | 01:32:26 | |
Yeah. | 01:32:31 | |
2. | 01:32:32 | |
Two more. OK, go ahead. Go ahead. We're just getting really far behind this morning. So I just wanted to kind of the frame from | 01:32:33 | |
where we're at because we'll get people that need to leave. So go ahead, Sherry, I couldn't. Morning, Mr. Chairman and Board. | 01:32:39 | |
Thank you. Thank you for your time this morning. So my name is Vince Green and Senior Director of Development for Light Source BP. | 01:32:45 | |
We have projects in Weld County that were that were actively developing. I think we recognize the concerns of of everyone here on | 01:32:52 | |
the board and in the community about about location, about sitting. I guess what I want to say is that you know we don't we we | 01:33:00 | |
definitely want to be a part of this stakeholder process. | 01:33:07 | |
So we're not moving our application forward until we've addressed everybody's concerns, the county's concerns and we plan to do | 01:33:16 | |
that in the stakeholder process. | 01:33:21 | |
And so we don't believe that a moratorium is necessary. | 01:33:26 | |
I think the 1041 right now protects protects the county from that and and I recognize that you know if we can't put together good | 01:33:31 | |
projects, they're just not going to get permitted. So we look forward to to working with you. We look forward to having to see the | 01:33:37 | |
table and I appreciate your time. Thank you. | 01:33:43 | |
OK. | 01:33:51 | |
Hello Breezy Carlson, I am actually from Lakewood, Co by pioneering a 15 year oil and gas attorney ironically enough, and I gave | 01:33:55 | |
this very similar testimony in Arapahoe County in support of oil and gas. | 01:34:03 | |
About a month ago and and just say I have no doubt in the fight would be a lie and unfair because just like Craig so many of our | 01:34:11 | |
skill sets are transferable and I am working for solar clients in solar space. I would also echo his sentiment that. | 01:34:22 | |
The land owners and constituents on both sides of this fine. | 01:34:32 | |
Finding suitable land uses is difficult and there is one of all of our favorite terms. But my testimony in front of an Apple hotel | 01:34:37 | |
and was less about actual land use and less about stakeholder concerns and more about liability for the county itself. I think | 01:34:44 | |
something really great to think about is the use of private property rights and then it actually does constitute a taking which is | 01:34:51 | |
supported in Boulder. | 01:34:57 | |
Yes, 10 year ago Boulder County had a moratorium on oil and gas. I don't know if any of you know, but some of the first ones were | 01:35:05 | |
killed in Boulder County. Boulder County roads to Amazon everyday. But we don't like House of fuels, right. So we're doing | 01:35:11 | |
accident more Torium and landowner was unable to lease their person and they could prove damages and Boulder County had to | 01:35:17 | |
compensate those damages. So I understand that you guys are faced with a lot of very difficult decisions and some feelings on | 01:35:23 | |
either side of the aisle. | 01:35:28 | |
Welcome billing that has been removed, reasonable chance to work with, and I do believe that to avoid liability, you have existing | 01:35:35 | |
avenues to deal with these challenges in place. | 01:35:42 | |
You approve them on that space, but you'll be most capable of doing so. | 01:35:50 | |
And as such, I would make the argument that there are solutions outside of a moratorium. | 01:35:56 | |
And a moratorium would single handedly open the country up to unnecessary liability. | 01:36:02 | |
Thank you. | 01:36:10 | |
OK. | 01:36:12 | |
Is there is there any other public input? | 01:36:12 | |
OK, seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public input and bring it back to the board for discussion. | 01:36:17 | |
Commissioner James, thank you and thank you all for for coming to Test 5 certainly heard you. | 01:36:23 | |
Let's let's be candid about the crux of of why we're even having this conversation. | 01:36:30 | |
Many of us don't like the mandates that come out of the gold Dome. | 01:36:36 | |
But it's it's my, in the interest of Full disclosure, my college roommate Troy Whitmore said. And I'll say much more colorful you | 01:36:41 | |
than you, Mr. Lavender shirt. Don't hate the player, hate the game. | 01:36:46 | |
It is the rules by which they have been given that they're playing within. | 01:36:52 | |
I would agree with that. | 01:36:57 | |
The. | 01:36:59 | |
I I wanna echo on on the comment by one of the gentlemen, what is the emergency that we're trying to address? | 01:37:01 | |
The the market has been created, artificial or not, but it's been created and the players are playing the game. | 01:37:10 | |
So therefore, there is is a rush to come to Weld County, to do what Weld County's best known for, and that's defined a way and and | 01:37:17 | |
to to foster. | 01:37:22 | |
Economic opportunity and and development. | 01:37:27 | |
I understand the consternation. I share it quite frankly of. | 01:37:32 | |
Put an objectivity to compatibility. | 01:37:37 | |
Because the bottom line on some of these massive facilities. | 01:37:41 | |
You know we've heard about multi thousands of acres in testimony today. The bottom line on some of these nasty facilities is the | 01:37:45 | |
impact that creates our neighbors. | 01:37:49 | |
And they are industrial in nature. So how can one gain a foothold on compatibility and I think that's the conversation that we. | 01:37:53 | |
We've all had on this board of County Commissioners is how do we get to compatibility. | 01:38:00 | |
And then is it subjective merely to the? To the wind, to the neighbors? Can we put some objective criteria in with compatibility? | 01:38:06 | |
But frankly, we have known about this for months. | 01:38:10 | |
And the onus is on us. | 01:38:16 | |
To develop that that criteria and to to take a look at our code. | 01:38:19 | |
And we have not acted. | 01:38:23 | |
So I agree with the comments of of where is is the emergency. | 01:38:26 | |
We have some. We have protection and our 1041 authority. | 01:38:32 | |
It is. | 01:38:38 | |
Something that I extremely struggle with. The word moratorium and well county should not collide in the same sentence. | 01:38:40 | |
And uh. | 01:38:48 | |
That's my thoughts, Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair. | 01:38:50 | |
Mr. Ross. | 01:38:53 | |
I wanna, I guess, echo some of the comments of Commissioner James. First of all, I got to thank some of you for speaking directly. | 01:38:55 | |
If I didn't get to talk to you, I want to thank everyone for for speaking. It does take courage to step in front of that | 01:38:59 | |
microphone. | 01:39:03 | |
And share your concerns. | 01:39:07 | |
Umm. | 01:39:10 | |
We do have. | 01:39:14 | |
An issue in my. | 01:39:16 | |
Opinion. And that's getting to that. | 01:39:20 | |
Objectivity over subjectivity when we're considering those cases because. | 01:39:24 | |
While it is a right to own that land, to change that use. | 01:39:29 | |
Has to be scrutinized so that we aren't providing or causing harm. Excuse me. | 01:39:35 | |
To others. | 01:39:40 | |
Surrounding that potential land use. | 01:39:42 | |
And so that's why we take this. I think so. | 01:39:44 | |
Um. | 01:39:47 | |
So seriously. | 01:39:49 | |
Uh. | 01:39:50 | |
Now I completely agree with you. We've known about this for months. | 01:39:51 | |
And it's it's It needs to be acted upon because as the. | 01:39:56 | |
Time comes for Excel or others that they're having their threshold and timeline done for releasing these projects. | 01:40:02 | |
We're coming up against it and I think maybe that's where the heart of the emergency inside of this. | 01:40:09 | |
I came from so that we have the opportunity or or or understanding out there that. | 01:40:15 | |
There is something that needs to be fixed. It's not quite. | 01:40:20 | |
Right in these large scale solar projects over 160 acres that go through this 1041 process. | 01:40:24 | |
I don't like moratoriums, I. | 01:40:34 | |
I'm of a business mindset. I don't think they're healthy for anyone, whether that's a. | 01:40:37 | |
Municipality and county, state, I really don't care because now you're playing in the free market enterprise and you are. | 01:40:45 | |
Interfering with that and I think that's detrimental on on many means what I did here today in a lot of the. | 01:40:53 | |
Comments is. | 01:41:01 | |
Ohh. | 01:41:03 | |
I'll come with partners because everybody in here have you as a partner. | 01:41:04 | |
Recognizes that, yeah, we want to do this the right way. Let's get to the right. | 01:41:07 | |
Let's get to the right solution. We're just in a time crunch. | 01:41:13 | |
To do that. Um, but I'm not in favor of moratoriums. | 01:41:17 | |
I guess that's my two cents for now. I can chime in later. Thank you so much for saying that. We have a different definition of | 01:41:23 | |
partnership or surprising them, but I think it's important in these contentious situations. | 01:41:28 | |
To reveal bias when it is a legislative body, when we're sitting and writing law, which is code. | 01:41:34 | |
And then this dismissed that bias. | 01:41:39 | |
But it conflicts with principle and I support obvious oil and gas for obvious reasons that is more energy dense than renewables. | 01:41:42 | |
And one Gas is important for the foreseeable future. We can't live without it. And that provides a future that provides prosperity | 01:41:48 | |
for our Weld County citizens. | 01:41:53 | |
The cost of energy. | 01:41:57 | |
And the reliability of energy affects the cost of everything in our lives, from transportation of goods and services to medicines | 01:41:59 | |
and to safety equipment. | 01:42:03 | |
And spending our energy choices isn't accepted and lawful choice under this market, as Commissioner James has said, and we have | 01:42:07 | |
Sevier Energy choice at the state capital. | 01:42:12 | |
And a moratorium, no matter how long we'll make our witness and testimony at that state capital diminished. | 01:42:18 | |
And while no market is completely free of regulations. | 01:42:24 | |
Um. | 01:42:27 | |
Especially for public safety and welfare, we should adhere to the major, major principles of our party, which includes limited | 01:42:28 | |
government, free markets, personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility, and more time on energy development where there's oil | 01:42:32 | |
and gas. | 01:42:37 | |
Or his other energy development that none of those principles instead of message to all industries that if they don't like | 01:42:41 | |
something personally and have it a bias that we act upon that sends a message we may not be business friendly for anyone. | 01:42:47 | |
And won't anyway, is to work with business owners, not surprise them. | 01:42:55 | |
We have the capability of solving these problems without moratorium. Oil and gas moratoriums and other municipalities here in Weld | 01:42:59 | |
County have driven business and development away from those same towns. | 01:43:04 | |
And I am also concerned we are not using code criteria and comments today saying industrial looking or too big which can trigger a | 01:43:09 | |
106 action later and clearly diminish public trust as as this board as being arbitrary and precious and it also object to using a | 01:43:16 | |
definition of emergency which is also arbitrary and capricious. Stay considered, we surprise stakeholders. | 01:43:23 | |
And that these projects are limited by the building and grades of transmission lines in the upcoming years. | 01:43:30 | |
As a matter of protecting agriculture. | 01:43:35 | |
Which is something we all want to do as a matter of private property rights. If we have the right to farm, then it stands. | 01:43:38 | |
So the property owner also has the right not to farm. | 01:43:45 | |
I heard the farmer turned down that they may even have water rights tied to his property. He was told by this board he needs to do | 01:43:49 | |
something else to keep it agricultural. | 01:43:52 | |
If we are inserting ourselves. | 01:43:57 | |
Ladies and gentlemen. | 01:44:00 | |
And forcing people to produce or not produce in a certain way, be it agriculture or energy, we have become the monsters we say we | 01:44:01 | |
are fighting. | 01:44:05 | |
Urgent no vote. | 01:44:11 | |
Well, my only comment is, yeah, I think I've heard several times today, moratorium is just death. | 01:44:15 | |
To an industry and it's I don't think any of us ever want to put death to any industry. | 01:44:22 | |
My feeling is that I'm not sure we. | 01:44:29 | |
I and and I it's just a humble approach of trying to encourage solar and well county and we're doing the best and so we came out | 01:44:34 | |
strong and and wanted to have all energies to rise to the top. I'm not sure that where we are with our planning department where | 01:44:40 | |
we're at prime time. | 01:44:46 | |
And so I'm kind of would like to call it a pause, but that's not what we're addressing today. So I'm conflicted. I'm not. And our | 01:44:53 | |
planning department does an incredible job, no question about it. But. | 01:44:59 | |
We are still so new to this whole solar industry and. | 01:45:06 | |
I. | 01:45:11 | |
I mean, agriculture is everything to Weld County. That's what makes us so unique and and what I'm so proud of. But again. | 01:45:14 | |
These. | 01:45:22 | |
You know there's there's property out there that absolutely is perfect for for solar and I wouldn't want to do anything to to not | 01:45:24 | |
encourage that. So I as much as I. | 01:45:29 | |
And don't like the word moratorium, but I don't know if we can use a pause because I'm just not sure we are completely have done | 01:45:35 | |
all of our due diligence to make sure we are so ready for, you know, so many thousands of acres of solar. | 01:45:43 | |
OK, so and and I completely agree with the rest of you, I hate that. I hate the the, the, the, the idea of a moratorium on | 01:45:53 | |
anything. | 01:45:57 | |
Not if we've got to have a way to be objectively and not just subjective, say it's too big or it's whatever, because there's too | 01:46:31 | |
many houses around. It's a subjective type decision. That's what I think that we've been trying to get to you and and put in the | 01:46:39 | |
code for certain things. We don't have these conversations since the beginning of the year. I think about how do we get some | 01:46:46 | |
things in place that give us some more objectivity on on on compatibility, because you know, there is, there is compatibility. | 01:46:54 | |
Quite honestly, is is extremely subjective. And so that puts us in, it puts us in a bit, puts us in our place. I don't know if I'm | 01:47:02 | |
that confusion, but I'd like to just pause and all of us have a stakeholder meeting and work together so that we can get to the | 01:47:07 | |
spot where we're sitting, these things, where they make sense and we'll count. That's that's my goal. My goal is to not stop large | 01:47:13 | |
facilities. | 01:47:18 | |
That's never been my attempt. I'm not biased against, sorry, I'm I voted for every, every, so, every solar project that's coming | 01:47:23 | |
from us, which has been in the 20s, twenty 5 probably. And there's been two that we've built over that period of time, one about | 01:47:29 | |
2019 and one recently that we thought wasn't compatible because of the surrounding neighborhoods. Other than that, I've supported | 01:47:35 | |
every one of them. We plan to continue to do that, but we've got to be in a place where we can do this, where you have the right | 01:47:41 | |
to do what. | 01:47:47 | |
Tell to do on your own property, but you also do not have the right to impact all the neighbors around it, but nobody really does | 01:47:53 | |
impact them. | 01:47:57 | |
And it doesn't work and it does look industrial. There's no way that you can say that it doesn't look like an industrial site. So | 01:48:02 | |
we just gotta have these things in the right place. I don't know the right answer, guys, on how we, how we pause and we get to | 01:48:07 | |
that spot and loads or more time or whether it's whatever it is. But there's got to be a way that we aren't getting a position | 01:48:13 | |
where we've got applications coming forward in places that don't make sense. | 01:48:19 | |
Jeremy and submits. | 01:48:27 | |
That we remove. | 01:48:29 | |
This moratorium from the agenda and scheduled work session immediately. | 01:48:31 | |
Whether that's today or in the next couple of days or next week, I don't know procedurally if we can remove some. It's already | 01:48:36 | |
been approved. We have to been approved for no vote then, well, you've asked for it. | 01:48:41 | |
So any other comments? There's one other thing. Yes, Emergency ordinance need four of five commissioners to vote for it. | 01:48:48 | |
Mr. Chair, yes, I'm gonna move for denial of the emergency ordinance for reasons previously stated. | 01:49:00 | |
But I am going to direct our planning department. | 01:49:08 | |
This problem has to get solved, and we're looking at a short window, so I mean that same time frame we're talking about. | 01:49:11 | |
Uh. | 01:49:17 | |
Coming to a solution that was asked for through this moratorium request, I think that's what I would direct as far as stakeholder | 01:49:18 | |
meetings and getting the process. | 01:49:24 | |
Continuing to be refined and revised so that we do the large scale solar facilities. | 01:49:30 | |
Properly for Weld County, so I'm going to move for denial, but direct planning to do what was requested through the. | 01:49:36 | |
They did not bear that. | 01:49:45 | |
Process check it. | 01:49:46 | |
It's been moved and seconded to. | 01:49:49 | |
Come. | 01:49:51 | |
Deny the Emergency Code Ordinance 2023 Dash 08. Is there any further discussion Commission? Read the comment and I and I | 01:49:53 | |
understand. I appreciate Bruce's work and I understand. | 01:49:57 | |
The passion that's involved in getting to the objectivity of of compatibility, and that's conversation we need to have. | 01:50:02 | |
I'm going to look at my friend Tom Barco immediately, just as soon as we can. | 01:50:10 | |
But more time and well, county should not collide in the same sense. | 01:50:16 | |
And and I don't, I don't disagree with that and so I will actually be supporting your motion as well. And and with the with the | 01:50:20 | |
understanding that we get on this immediately, we schedule a work session next week and we get and we get stakeholder meetings | 01:50:26 | |
scheduled within the next within the next two weeks and we get something in place so that we've got objectivity that we can put | 01:50:32 | |
into our code within the next 60 days. That's that would be what I would be directing our planning department to to to be able to | 01:50:38 | |
to accomplish. | 01:50:44 | |
I agree with all that's been said. | 01:50:52 | |
OK. Any further discussion? | 01:50:54 | |
OK. With that all in favor, Aye, opposed. | 01:50:56 | |
Motion carries. Thanks. | 01:51:00 | |
Actually. | 01:51:03 | |
Thanks, Bruce. Thank you, Bruce. Good luck, good luck. So we do have one last thing and that is for the agenda this morning that's | 01:51:05 | |
public comment. This would be public comment on anything that is not already previously been on our agenda. So any other public | 01:51:10 | |
comment. | 01:51:16 | |
Can you read address? | 01:51:22 | |
You brought some more back, so I'd like. I've got a couple of things I'd like to say. Go ahead. | 01:51:24 | |
Hello. | 01:51:34 | |
Regarding this regarding solar, yes, OK, real quickly if you don't mind Sir, you do. I need to restate name and address and all | 01:51:38 | |
that. Take Glenn Neal 46508 will convert 184657641018. | 01:51:44 | |
It's in regards to your statement. | 01:51:51 | |
Looking at the company that I'm dealing with and your your concern is with neighbors. If you look at that block of ground. | 01:51:53 | |
It was great to see what their contract says. We talked. | 01:52:02 | |
And we all agree that it fit the area, yeah. | 01:52:05 | |
OK, so. | 01:52:08 | |
And I'm gonna say this, not wanting to offend you. We don't need your input. | 01:52:10 | |
Without the taxes. | 01:52:15 | |
We are students of the ground. I told you that I put my sandwich back in the grass. | 01:52:16 | |
The other one that Mister Gabriel and the other one with that instruct. | 01:52:22 | |
We talked. | 01:52:25 | |
Thought it fit the area. | 01:52:27 | |
So I guess when it comes to that point. | 01:52:29 | |
Be considerate of our. | 01:52:33 | |
You know what we feel. | 01:52:35 | |
Because with the tax increases that we've had. | 01:52:37 | |
For Pete's sake. | 01:52:41 | |
I don't need somebody that's gonna charge me to oversee what I'm doing. I live out there. You don't. | 01:52:43 | |
No, it would fit, yeah. | 01:52:48 | |
Yeah, go ahead. | 01:52:51 | |
I I get what you're saying and and you and your developer have done the responsible thing of reaching out to your neighbors. | 01:52:53 | |
And what you're finding when you're doing that right is you're finding how do we make this project. | 01:53:00 | |
Compatible with our surrounding neighbors, so that. | 01:53:05 | |
They agree, yes, it too should have this use in it, right when we talk about compatibility. | 01:53:08 | |
That's what we're trying to get through and that's that partnership there. | 01:53:13 | |
Now uh. | 01:53:17 | |
We have to make sure it be. I don't know what analogy to use here, right? There's not a perfect analogy, but. | 01:53:19 | |
There is a reason why we have compatibility, right? And it's no different than changing land use for anything else. I mean, if we | 01:53:28 | |
wanted to put up a rock stage, like a rock band playing right next to your house, you may not find that compatible, right? Maybe | 01:53:34 | |
you do, maybe you haven't, you know. Right. I'm deaf, so I wouldn't hear, OK. But. But that's why we have to go through that | 01:53:40 | |
process because that change of land use. | 01:53:46 | |
Isn't a guarantee, right. And that's why we're here. But we do appreciate you and those responsible developers who are here today. | 01:53:52 | |
Right. Right. Are going through that process. OK. That's at least for me. I can't speak on behalf of anybody else. And there were | 01:53:58 | |
other comments that I would mention that's exactly, that's exactly right. And if you know the day, so. | 01:54:04 | |
My concern is that you have our solar facility that comes through. And so everything that needs our code except that you've got 25 | 01:54:12 | |
neighbors that are in here just losing their mind over the fact that that's not a compatible place. And it's subjective to for us | 01:54:17 | |
to say, well, it's not everything in our code except that everybody that surrounds us is not in favor. That's where we struggle | 01:54:23 | |
with compatibility and that's why I made the statement I did. My neighbors are literally powered spray dogs and Addison get it. | 01:54:29 | |
That's why. | 01:54:35 | |
There's nobody else. That's why they should be in those people should be in the everything I forgot when I was up here is for the | 01:54:41 | |
excellent energy line that I believe you're talking about is north and is compatible with most of the companies that are in our | 01:54:46 | |
area a lot along with within 4 miles. And I believe it's the one that comes out of Piney and brushes to the South. They did their | 01:54:52 | |
homework, they really good. | 01:54:57 | |
Did you listen? | 01:55:04 | |
OK. Any other public comment? | 01:55:05 | |
Please be brief because we are way behind. | 01:55:13 | |
Well, we're that. | 01:55:16 | |
OK, Edward Wayne Grant. I'm a local Greeley guy. My father worked for Home right Power Company 2 years before World War 2 and 40 | 01:55:18 | |
years afterwards it became Public Service Company of Colorado, now Excel Energy. I am one of their stockholders. | 01:55:26 | |
OK, I am on. A lot of their engineers over the years, Richard Fairley, Richard Brown, General Hawk, all of these people were were | 01:55:35 | |
managers when they were taking over Excel Energy. Even back then, after my father's been dead for 10 years, they were worried | 01:55:42 | |
about cars like the battery car, the Tesla and all that stuff. If everybody plugged in their car tonight, the whole grid go down. | 01:55:50 | |
Transformers would blow all over town. That was the concern and the tribute they had an article about how much energy we get. | 01:55:57 | |
Cool natural gas, oil and so on. Renewables are very, not very big. Part of that Excel Energy is having I get the bulletins. | 01:56:05 | |
They're having a very hard time getting quotes from Wyoming, buying enough natural gas and all that kind of stuff to do all these | 01:56:11 | |
projects to keep, make sure when you flip the switch, these lights come on. That's the problem. That's going to be a problem. It's | 01:56:17 | |
going to get worse and worse and worse. Thank you. Thank you. | 01:56:22 | |
Mr. Chairman, I know you're behind. | 01:56:30 | |
I applaud you for taking the approach that you've taken. | 01:56:33 | |
I think it sends the right message. | 01:56:37 | |
Whether it's legacy development? | 01:56:39 | |
For the new renewable. | 01:56:42 | |
So thank you for the approach that you thank. Thank you, Steve. Thank you Proactive. | 01:56:45 | |
We support business. | 01:56:52 | |
Attitude that resonates in this community and in this county will continue to do so because of the show. Thank you. Thank you, | 01:56:54 | |
thank you. Mr. Teeks, quickly, please. | 01:57:00 | |
I'm just doing 3 out of four then. | 01:57:07 | |
For the record, my name is Steve Cheeseman Greeley Number one is Life Care. Nursing Home is having to sell 25th. | 01:57:15 | |
Yeah, celebration. | 01:57:24 | |
Next Thursday from 2:00 to 6:00. So anybody? I'm sure they love to have some more people attend. | 01:57:27 | |
So that's the positive news I got. | 01:57:37 | |
OK I got in the mail is this. | 01:57:41 | |
Proposition H My notice in your agenda last week you talked about this. Unfortunately I wasn't here, but. | 01:57:46 | |
He says it's unconstitutional and must take the way the tax refund check and all that other stuff. And one other thing on this, it | 01:57:58 | |
says that there's some counties joining the lawsuit now. Since we're going to either say nay or yay for this, I don't think we | 01:58:06 | |
need to see in a teleport. Counties are something I would recommend before you think of getting on the line. Let's wait until | 01:58:13 | |
voters decide before we do that. | 01:58:21 | |
And my third thing is. | 01:58:29 | |
Since Commissioner James is a nice guy, I'm going to ask him a question. Always me tease me. | 01:58:32 | |
I wasn't able to make the NCO because of the rain and all that and I didn't want to get stuck and had to walk on the other side of | 01:58:39 | |
green. Could you give a general synopsis of that meeting, Sir? Sure. I just a bit of our conversation. We've heard reports about | 01:58:45 | |
the Front Range passenger rail a little bit. We heard a report from the deputy director of the Colorado Department of | 01:58:51 | |
Transportation Hermit Stocking or was there Herman spoke to us about the process that we're going through with the amendments that | 01:58:57 | |
was on. | 01:59:03 | |
Nashville 1101 this year that basically deals with instructing the transportation Commission to look at the boundary lines of | 01:59:09 | |
transportation planning regions. So we talked about the the, the process it's going to be instituted there, but also talked about | 01:59:14 | |
our our plan. | 01:59:20 | |
To have 10 year plan anymore, but it's it's kind of the 2050 vision per se and the projects that were put on that. | 01:59:27 | |
I am excited to see a lot of the focus going to 234 and and yes there continues to be a conversation about transit that about how | 01:59:33 | |
that will interact with with the 34 as we move forward on that I'm sorry, go move the question, I was at the City Council meeting | 01:59:39 | |
agreement last night and. | 01:59:46 | |
Councilman Olson said something about a that the state was having people at different different cities and all that and the public | 01:59:53 | |
meeting. | 02:00:00 | |
That he said something about trying to get them to come up here. Do you know anything about that? Yeah, yeah, it is. And I. | 02:00:08 | |
Is Elizabeth here can iPhone a friend It is has to do with the a transit outreach that they're doing and and Councillor Olson | 02:00:17 | |
along with Commissioner James referred to myself in the third person are big advocates in trying to get to that organization to | 02:00:23 | |
come up here and hear from greatly with transit in inputs and so that's that's our goal is to get one of those meetings out of the | 02:00:29 | |
metro area and and into other colors. I agree with that. | 02:00:35 | |
If you so choose please. Thank you. I just want to make one comment, let me initiate. So we are not going to join the lawsuit, but | 02:00:43 | |
we did pass the proposition, proposition in opposition to HR. So you're aware we're. | 02:00:49 | |
To that proposition that we are supporting the lawsuit now its tenants because I was told it's too late to join as a plaintiff on | 02:00:57 | |
that lawsuit, although I hope we can in the future. | 02:01:01 | |
And then just another question. I'm sorry, Sir, is that? | 02:01:07 | |
It it says how is it unconstitutional and this is what I guess my last question is I can respond to that courts determine whether | 02:01:15 | |
that's something is unconstitutional that board county commissioners. So I just. | 02:01:22 | |
The subject that's their argument that makes it unconstitutional. It's it's self-evident. It's unconstitutional because we have | 02:01:30 | |
several things including Tabor in our Constitution ***** and read for themselves. That's why constitution is written the way they | 02:01:36 | |
are, including the violation of single subject rule. That particular bill that passed the last minute had four subjects in there. | 02:01:41 | |
Plus the title is very deceptive. | 02:01:46 | |
And we should not be deceiving the taxpayers that would have been not accepted at the title board. But the since the state | 02:01:52 | |
legislature has the majority on both sides, they get to determine what's deceptive or not. | 02:01:58 | |
OK. Thank you. OK. | 02:02:05 | |
Anything else? OK, seeing no further business. We are adjourned. We're going to take 5 minutes and then we do have A and then we | 02:02:07 | |
do have a show cause hearing and I believe we've got a couple of landing places. | 02:02:12 | |
So can we take? | 02:02:17 |
To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with | 00:02:47 | |
liberty and justice for all. | 00:02:53 | |
Ohh, good morning. It's Wednesday, June 7th call with the Board of County Commissioners. Roll call please. | 00:03:01 | |
Scott King? Kevin Ross, are you saying payback? | 00:03:16 | |
Mike Crimmins reflect all five county commissioners are present. | 00:03:21 | |
Minutes Approval of Minutes of May 24th, 2023. Thank you Mr. Chair. And then to move the Minutes to the back of the new business. | 00:03:25 | |
I have not had a chance to read those out because my computer's been down. | 00:03:34 | |
OK. We'll continue minutes till next meeting. I'm sorry, until Monday. | 00:03:40 | |
OK, there's a motion to. | 00:03:46 | |
Continue the Minutes until the next second. | 00:03:48 | |
Another discussion. | 00:03:53 | |
No. | 00:03:56 | |
Mineral cobalt. | 00:03:58 | |
No, no, no. All in favor. Aye. Opposed motion. Mr. Chair, I would like to make another motion to remove Code Ordinance 202308. | 00:04:00 | |
From the agenda today, I believe that we can solve this without the heavy-handed government and I believe that more discussion is | 00:04:10 | |
needed on this topic. We can solve that with our current department heads. We have some very smart attorneys. | 00:04:17 | |
Yes, and very excellent people in this room that can help us out with this. I do not believe a moratorium on energy development is | 00:04:24 | |
needed at this time. | 00:04:27 | |
OK, so second. | 00:04:34 | |
I'll second for purposes of discussion. | 00:04:37 | |
Pulling discussion Well, I don't think it should be removed. I think the purpose of having it on there is to have the discussion | 00:04:43 | |
about it in particular so. | 00:04:48 | |
I don't get how. | 00:04:52 | |
Removing an item from agenda promotes discussion. | 00:04:54 | |
So discussion is had and you bring things to awareness by having one in agenda so we can have it in a formal setting. | 00:04:58 | |
As we say in the legislature, this is not ready for prime time. | 00:05:05 | |
We've got a lot of folks who want to speak on this today. I understand that they speak during. | 00:05:09 | |
When we discuss the ordinance, they can also speak during public comment. | 00:05:13 | |
So we can have plenty of public discussion today without putting this on the agenda. | 00:05:17 | |
Arranging my motion. | 00:05:20 | |
You know, it's something we've been talking about for quite a while. I think it's been some recommendations that we need to take a | 00:05:27 | |
time out and take a look at this for a very short period of time. There's some things that need to be looked at as far as | 00:05:32 | |
objective. We've talked about objective compatibility. | 00:05:36 | |
And this is not trying to end, so it's not doing anything with the majority of the solar things that we have seen come through. | 00:05:41 | |
This was for only the 1041, which is the areas of state interest. And I think that it makes sense that we take a time out and have | 00:05:46 | |
a conversation to make sure that we're all on the same page because it has a tremendous impact of what's going on across Weld | 00:05:51 | |
County so. | 00:05:55 | |
The Submergence Ordinance did not go through the proper procedure of Director to the Commissioner coordinator. I would. | 00:06:01 | |
Opposed this on the on the principle that. | 00:06:06 | |
If we say we don't have accounting manager. | 00:06:09 | |
And we directly. | 00:06:11 | |
Coordinate departments. | 00:06:13 | |
It should follow that process. This does not follow this process. | 00:06:14 | |
I think we can take some time out. | 00:06:18 | |
And do this in another work session or two like we have done in the past. And stakeholder. We just had that conversation at UNC | 00:06:20 | |
yesterday. | 00:06:23 | |
And we've heard a lot about business owners and other entities not having a stakeholder in process, and I do not want to repeat | 00:06:27 | |
the state mistakes of the session. | 00:06:31 | |
So go ahead. | 00:06:36 | |
I disagree with Commissioner saying on this we have a lot of people here. | 00:06:38 | |
Prepared to speak. I don't know which way they want to speak and to take this off the agenda, to not hear them speak. I think it's | 00:06:42 | |
a disservice to everybody sitting here because I can't tell you how everyone in this room feels about this issue, right? So the | 00:06:48 | |
fact that it's on here, people taking time away from work, time, willing to speak on this, positive or negative or indifferent, I | 00:06:54 | |
don't know what the feeling is from people and to get further information. So I know how I'm going to vote on this. | 00:07:00 | |
Some other things we've done along the way. And so I think that I agree with Mr. Ross, if we need to let people speak today. So | 00:07:37 | |
it's on the agenda, doesn't mean it's going to pass today, but it's on the agenda and we need to have the conversation about it | 00:07:43 | |
once we pass that through. Let me just make an objection, Mr. Chair, but that's why the stakeholders before you make legislation. | 00:07:50 | |
And not substantial changes legislation either. You do that before you come to the table, so I will budget my objections to that. | 00:07:57 | |
And I do wish there be Commission agenda and ask for a vote. | 00:08:04 | |
Anybody else anything? OK, roll call vote. Did did you have a second? | 00:08:09 | |
Yeah, I see that second. So it's been moving trying to remove this, so roll call vote. | 00:08:13 | |
Skype changes. | 00:08:19 | |
Telling us what you think is payback, No. | 00:08:20 | |
Mike Freeman, No. | 00:08:24 | |
OK. We'll stay on the agenda and we'll talk about it today. | 00:08:27 | |
Next item Sir. Ohh, next item Certification pairings. Alright. | 00:08:32 | |
Motion to read like code Ordinance to read ordinance. | 00:08:39 | |
Move to rebound you second. | 00:08:45 | |
OK. | 00:08:49 | |
Do we need a roll call roll on reading it by ordinance? | 00:08:50 | |
Broke over to read code ordinance by audio. | 00:08:54 | |
Sorry, Scott King. Yes. Kevin Ross, yes. What are you saying? | 00:09:01 | |
OK, back. Yes, Mike Freeman, yes. | 00:09:06 | |
OK, motion carries 4 to 1 amendments to the agenda. Do we have any amendments to the agenda? | 00:09:08 | |
OK, Google the consent agenda. | 00:09:15 | |
Certification of hearings Ohh I'm sorry. Certification of hearings conducted on May 24th, 2023 Sr. 23-001. | 00:09:17 | |
Burchard LLC. Second move by Commissioner. Second second by commissioner. James certify hearings. All in favor. | 00:09:25 | |
Curious #2 gender. | 00:09:34 | |
Amendment Approval of the consent agenda. | 00:09:37 | |
Move to approve the consent agenda second. | 00:09:43 | |
Been moved, like in Mr. James, second by Commissioner Ross, to approve the consent agenda. All in favor, Aye. Opposed. | 00:09:45 | |
Motion carried presentations, Recognition of Services, Sheriff's Office, Sheriff's Office lead Jeffrey Falkenberg. | 00:09:51 | |
OK, whereas Lee Jeffrey Falkenberg has served well County Sheriff's Office from April 3rd, 1989 to August 3rd, 20 August 2nd, | 00:10:04 | |
2023. And whereas the Board, County Commissioners wishes to recognize your dedicated service to Weld County and its citizens, Now | 00:10:10 | |
therefore be it known that the Board of Weld County Commissioners wishes to express its gratitude to lead Jeffrey Falkenberg for | 00:10:16 | |
your outstanding dedication to Weld County and its citizens. | 00:10:22 | |
It's actually just Jeff talking Oberg. As we all know, there's a few guys that are institutions in the agency. Jeff is one of | 00:10:38 | |
those guys. | 00:10:41 | |
Anybody who's worked in law enforcement or been around law enforcement career knows that this job can be difficult. | 00:10:46 | |
In any setting now, it's exponentially harder If you're working in a jail setting, which Jeff did for 34 years, wow, 34 years as a | 00:10:51 | |
deputy in jail. | 00:10:56 | |
In dog years, which is how we age people in law enforcement, 287 years. | 00:11:01 | |
Looking great demo. | 00:11:08 | |
That being said, Jeff was one of those guys that he predates me at the Sheriff's Office by several years. He was an institution | 00:11:10 | |
there already when I started. | 00:11:14 | |
Just just been one of those guys that's a rock solid performer. Shows up every day, puts in an honest day's work for an honest | 00:11:19 | |
day's pay. | 00:11:22 | |
He's very well respected within the law enforcement community, especially in our jail, not just by the officers but also by the | 00:11:26 | |
inmates. And that's something that that said something because he was earning a respect. | 00:11:30 | |
By treating them fair, firm and consistent, which Jeff is just the he's a model of what a correction deputy should be. We're going | 00:11:35 | |
to miss you, but you earned it. Thanks, Jeff. Congratulations. | 00:11:40 | |
Of course you couldn't. That's why. No being without my family being, you know, being blessed with the understood. | 00:11:53 | |
We doing this. | 00:12:00 | |
You know in it's been a blessing for 34 years to do this with some of the greatest people in the world and working for some of the | 00:12:02 | |
greatest bosses, working for three of the greatest sheriffs. | 00:12:07 | |
Ohh. | 00:12:13 | |
I mean it's it's been fantastic. It's. | 00:12:14 | |
Little wonderful sign for 30-4 years and I'm getting. | 00:12:18 | |
Broken up talking about it. | 00:12:22 | |
It's happy to be at this point. It's also bittersweet because this is what I've known for 34 years. | 00:12:25 | |
You know, it's been an honor. It's been my honor to serve the. | 00:12:31 | |
Citizens of Weld County in this capacity. | 00:12:34 | |
Thank you everybody for everything. | 00:12:38 | |
Mr. James. | 00:12:56 | |
Jeff, thank you so much for your service to the citizens of of of Weld County. Obviously your your commitment is is unparalleled. | 00:12:58 | |
I've been in my chosen profession for 41 years and I'm at the point where I hate it. So for you to be 34 years in the in in your | 00:13:05 | |
career is, is is outstanding. Thank you for your service Sir. We appreciate it. | 00:13:13 | |
Mr. Falkenberg, I just want to thank you all so, so much for your years of service. You have apparently have become the legend of | 00:13:21 | |
what it is to to do what you do. So I just want to thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. | 00:13:27 | |
Mr. Ross, congratulations. I mean, as a staunch supporter of law enforcement, you guys are put. | 00:13:35 | |
In a barrage of gunfire every day, whether that's live bullets or not, and the fact that you did this career in the jail, my hat | 00:13:40 | |
goes off to you. Knowing the struggles that law enforcement officers across the state faced on a daily basis. You must be a St. | 00:13:46 | |
because it's not an easy job and and I couldn't do it. I'm not strong enough. But but you are. So thank you. Thank you. Appreciate | 00:13:52 | |
it. | 00:13:58 | |
Achieved. Strengthen as you're leaving. | 00:14:05 | |
And I can poorly add to a lifetime of service. And thank you so much for. | 00:14:08 | |
Doing what you do and you help with the law and order our community so the rest of us can do jobs like these. | 00:14:13 | |
Or we can go be bakers. Or we can be lawyers and do all these other things. So thank you so much for protecting us and protecting | 00:14:21 | |
us honorable and society and. | 00:14:25 | |
Treating those that are incarcerated with dignity and respect. | 00:14:29 | |
You know, I would say, Commissioner James, as I understand, where you are hating your job after 41 years. | 00:15:02 | |
And I'm only 10 1/2, so with that we'll come down and take a picture. | 00:15:08 | |
It's a 2:00 AM alarm. | 00:15:17 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 00:15:23 | |
Yeah. | 00:15:25 | |
You're on the other side. | 00:15:31 | |
The first. | 00:15:38 | |
OK, we're all smiling. We're happy. Awesome, 123. Thank you, guys. | 00:15:40 | |
Quantity. | 00:15:46 | |
Nice. | 00:15:49 | |
Thank you. Thank you so much. | 00:15:50 | |
Thank you. Appreciate you. | 00:15:55 | |
Thanks for your help. | 00:16:04 | |
I just need for everything. | 00:16:08 | |
Yes, my brother, it's awesome. | 00:16:11 | |
It's good to see you. | 00:16:14 | |
OK, let's start on the other proclamations. Reunification Month, June 2023. | 00:16:28 | |
Come up, Jamie, and whoever you've got. | 00:16:34 | |
Um, whereas the families the primary source of love, identity, self-esteem and support for children and adults and provides the | 00:16:36 | |
foundation of our communities. | 00:16:40 | |
Reunified with their children those families currently working through the process and many support staff who help these families | 00:17:15 | |
now therefore be it proclaimed by the Board of Weld County Commissioners the June 2023 be known as Reunification Month in Weld | 00:17:21 | |
County and urges all residents to join us in this special observation, observance and supportive families and signed by. | 00:17:28 | |
Having a mic change right now. Thank you so much Commissioners, junior with Department of Human Services Director, really | 00:17:39 | |
appreciate the recognition on reunification Month. And today we have a lot of folks here from our shop and I'm going to introduce | 00:17:46 | |
to you in a little bit. But first I want to talk a little bit about Reunification Month. So every June we celebrate National | 00:17:53 | |
Reunification Month in an effort to recognize the health. | 00:17:59 | |
That we do to help keep families together. This first thing is we believe in the resiliency and strength of families and that | 00:18:06 | |
focuses on three primary areas. The 1st is when children cannot remain safely with their parents and need to enter foster care. | 00:18:12 | |
Reunifying them with family remains the primary goal. | 00:18:19 | |
The second is authentic equitable family engagement and integrating the voice of the children, youth and families into the case | 00:18:25 | |
planning and court processes. And the third is enhancing both parent and foster parent partnerships to improve the foster care | 00:18:32 | |
experience for children, youth and parents when the child's removal from the home is necessary, and to support reunification. | 00:18:39 | |
Our official day for celebrations in Weld County this year is June 23rd, 2023. That will be held at the courthouse and we'll be | 00:18:46 | |
able to share stories regarding successful reunification. | 00:18:53 | |
Ohh stories with our child welfare staff of the judges, service providers, attorneys and GL. And just for give a couple of | 00:19:01 | |
thoughts on on reunification. In twenty 2261% of the closed child growth welfare cases resulted in the unification and so far this | 00:19:08 | |
year we've had 51% of our child welfare cases that have resulted in reunification. I would like to recognize the staff that are | 00:19:16 | |
here today and then after we recognize them. | 00:19:24 | |
Do you have a family here today that were successfully reunified based on their hard work and dedication? And I'd also like to | 00:19:31 | |
recognize them. | 00:19:36 | |
So if I call your name, please stand up. And if you would stay standing so we can kind of recognize you all together. We have | 00:19:41 | |
Tammy Grant. She's our deputy Director of Human Services. | 00:19:46 | |
Heather Rocker, child Welfare director. | 00:19:51 | |
Robin Overmyer, Child welfare deputy director. | 00:19:54 | |
So we regulate child welfare resource manager. | 00:19:57 | |
Jeremy Irons, Health Offer Permanency Manager. | 00:20:00 | |
Servant from Timothy Ferris, Child Walker Permanency Supervisor. Annie Jade, Child Welfare Permanency Supervisor. Jackie | 00:20:03 | |
Underwood, Child Welfare Permanency Supervisor Lauren Hayes, Child Welfare Permanency Supervisor. | 00:20:11 | |
Brandy Puckett Adoptions caseworker Travis Denning Child welfare permanency supervisor Kate Moneymaker Child welfare permanency | 00:20:19 | |
worker Jackie Rivas, Child Walker permanency worker boy Pampa Child welfare permanency worker. Alba Chavez child welfare | 00:20:27 | |
permanency worker Lucy Ruiz, child welfare permanency worker Alex Moran, Illinois child welfare foster care Coordinator. | 00:20:36 | |
We're calling Morocco Child Welfare Foster Care Coordinator and Michelle Cervantes, Child Welfare Permanency Worker. These are the | 00:20:45 | |
folks that work every single day, year round, really helping to provide supports to families so that they can have those children | 00:20:51 | |
remain in safe environments. The dedication of the the folks standing before you today is just amazing and we just really want to | 00:20:57 | |
recognize their hard work. | 00:21:04 | |
Thank you all. You may be seated. | 00:21:16 | |
We're going to recognize as Cesar Varela Martinez, who is here with us today. | 00:21:19 | |
Naruto standout for us, please. | 00:21:24 | |
Do you have the hard work of Mr. Martinez? He was able to reunify with his little young son there and we're just so pleased that | 00:21:28 | |
he was committed to everything that needed to happen in order to reunify and wish him all the best of luck in the future so they | 00:21:34 | |
can for Mr. Morrison. | 00:21:40 | |
That's it. | 00:21:53 | |
Comments. | 00:21:55 | |
What is your messy? I know that's from from certainly personal experience. | 00:21:57 | |
And we all sin and fall short of the glory of God. | 00:22:01 | |
Second chances are to 0. | 00:22:08 | |
Thank you for providing those. | 00:22:12 | |
Fillmore, Klein, Mr. Bush, Ohh. Thanks James. | 00:22:15 | |
So I am first opportunity I had when I get to be coordinator for Human Services and I got to do a ride along for a foster | 00:22:21 | |
situation. And I'll never ever forget just my little small glimpse of what you do. My heart goes out and. | 00:22:30 | |
With so much gratitude and thank you so much for caring so much about the family and or how does involved a lot with. | 00:22:39 | |
Foster kids and Rob and I always see you here all the time when we're. | 00:22:46 | |
Honoring Human Services in in Jamie and and Tammy. I can't say all of your names, but really you truly make well. Accounting. So | 00:22:50 | |
very special, so very proud. | 00:22:55 | |
Thank you. | 00:23:02 | |
Dry rose. | 00:23:03 | |
None. | 00:23:04 | |
I'm gonna give him the tires. | 00:23:06 | |
But I am extremely excited for all of you. I hear these statistics, Jamie, that you you you spell out 62%, I believe you said last | 00:23:10 | |
year we're on pace for 51% this year for unification. | 00:23:15 | |
That's hard work that doesn't come easily, and that's a true testament. | 00:23:20 | |
To your guys's. | 00:23:27 | |
Not only efforts but your expertise and and your big hearts in this arena. So I truly commend you because. | 00:23:28 | |
That's that's awesome. It's doing the right thing for the right reason. | 00:23:36 | |
In an extremely difficult position and and my hats off to you. So great job and keep up the great work. Thank you. | 00:23:40 | |
Saying. | 00:23:49 | |
Doug created institutional family and that is that's where a child thrives but in. | 00:23:50 | |
Case where we humans fails, Commissioner James said. | 00:23:55 | |
That that second chance, the mercy grace, the the, the working through. | 00:23:59 | |
Those processes to reunite that child with that family. I hope that is the highest score of any. | 00:24:03 | |
Department of Human Services, regardless of where the artist in the state or in the nation that. | 00:24:08 | |
I just want to commend everybody who's. | 00:24:13 | |
That is your goal too. | 00:24:16 | |
Do you like children that they are #1 as far as consideration of safety and Wellness? | 00:24:18 | |
And thank you so much for committing to families. Thank you. | 00:24:24 | |
And I would agree with everything that's been said, you know. | 00:24:28 | |
Getting kids back with their parents is the ultimate goal, and it's such a success when it actually happens. | 00:24:32 | |
So and and that's a huge percentage that you're able to get that done with. So that that just that just goes to show the | 00:24:38 | |
dedication that you that you and your staff have in in helping people get to that spot because sometimes there's some real big | 00:24:44 | |
hurdles to get there. And so thank you for what you guys do every day for the kids, for the kids of rural county. | 00:24:49 | |
That. | 00:24:56 | |
Why don't we take a picture? | 00:24:58 | |
We'll see you guys. | 00:25:02 | |
They've been. They know how to get ready for a picture. | 00:25:06 | |
We practiced this, right? | 00:25:09 | |
Alright. | 00:25:16 | |
Hello. | 00:25:24 | |
You wanna take a selfie? We got this other. | 00:25:26 | |
Student type posting. | 00:25:29 | |
Ohh. | 00:25:33 | |
All. They're overloading the side, Jamie. I thought you said they were pros. | 00:25:35 | |
Watch out into the east there. | 00:25:41 | |
Are we all in? Do we have a few more people kind of squeeze in or maybe do a second row? It's kind of. | 00:25:46 | |
So. | 00:25:53 | |
We get you guys to come in. I can't get everybody in the frame here. | 00:25:56 | |
OK, 123. | 00:26:05 | |
123. | 00:26:10 | |
Thank you, Thank you. Congratulations you very much. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. Have a wonderful day. | 00:26:13 | |
OK. | 00:26:21 | |
Father. | 00:26:24 | |
Thank you everyone. | 00:26:28 | |
OK, Now we move on to Williams General Warrants of June 6, 2023. | 00:26:46 | |
YouTube. | 00:26:51 | |
Multiple second moved by Mr. James, second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor. Aye. Opposed. Motion carries bids. | 00:26:53 | |
Number one could there be 2300107 Chase Building Renovation, 822 Seven St. Facilities Department. | 00:27:00 | |
Good morning, Carolyn Geiser, purchasing. | 00:27:09 | |
As advertised, this bid is for the renovation of the first, second, 6th and 7th floors of the Chase Building. Low bid is from TCC | 00:27:12 | |
Corporation and read specifications. Therefore, the Facility Facilities Department is recommending the award to TCC Corporation in | 00:27:19 | |
the amount of five million, 598 dollars, $1000 and fives. | 00:27:27 | |
Let me start over again there 5,000,000. | 00:27:36 | |
$1,598,005. | 00:27:39 | |
Good question. | 00:27:45 | |
Mr. Chair moved to approve bid number B 2300107. | 00:27:46 | |
Second moved by Commissioner Ross, Second by Commissioner James to approve all in favor opposed motion carries. | 00:27:52 | |
#2 | 00:27:58 | |
Present there be 2300119 Courthouse annex roof replacement facilities department. | 00:27:59 | |
Purchasing department has received one bid. | 00:28:06 | |
It has been forwarded to the facilities department for review. We will be back on April 8th, feedback for approval on June. | 00:28:09 | |
21st. | 00:28:17 | |
Take any questions. OK, That's includes bids. Thank you. Move on to new business #1. Consider contract ID 770572023. Paul | 00:28:18 | |
Coverdell, Forensic Science improvement grant application and acceptance of application changes form and authorized Director of | 00:28:25 | |
Northern Colorado Regional, Colorado Regional Forensic Laboratory assignments and electronically. Good morning, commissioners. | 00:28:32 | |
Alan Caldwell for the Sheriff's Office. I'm here on behalf. | 00:28:39 | |
Over the Lab director Darren Ford, who cannot be here today. | 00:28:46 | |
The Regional Crime Lab has been awarded $28,375 in training funds. | 00:28:51 | |
From incorporated all formula grant. | 00:28:58 | |
The lab has utilized this brand for the past several years. | 00:29:01 | |
To train and certify analysts from all partnered agencies. This grant does not require matching funds. | 00:29:06 | |
The grant funding will be provided as SCUSE ME. The grant funding will provide funds to cover both tuition and travel for seven | 00:29:14 | |
courses. | 00:29:18 | |
The identified training includes one staff member to attend the American Society of Crime Lab Directors and Leadership course. | 00:29:23 | |
3 Certification courses for the digital forensic examiners, 3 courses for the latent print examiners and funding for one firearms | 00:29:33 | |
examiner to attend the Association of Firearms and Tool Mark Examiner Conference Shares Office recommends the Board accept the | 00:29:40 | |
grant award of $28,375. | 00:29:48 | |
Options move to approve a contract ID 70572023 Second move by Mr. Ross, Second by Mr. Buck to approve. All in favor Opposed motion | 00:29:57 | |
carries. | 00:30:02 | |
Thank you #2. Consider renewal application for fermented bulk milk beverage on premise county license and authorized chair sign | 00:30:09 | |
and DBA Prolia fleets. | 00:30:15 | |
Chairman, this is a renewal. | 00:30:21 | |
This is one of those that is located in the county, even though it's surrounded by Garden City, Evans and Greeley. | 00:30:24 | |
Um, we have just a few of those. | 00:30:32 | |
So I've reviewed the application and also the referrals. | 00:30:35 | |
No one's got any concerns recommend approval. | 00:30:41 | |
OK. | 00:30:44 | |
And back to the board. Approved. Second, I'm not like Mr. Buck. Second like Mr. Ross to approve. All in favor. Opposed motion | 00:30:45 | |
carries #3. Consider renewal application for a hotel and restaurant county liquor license and authorized to sign Reese Diner at | 00:30:51 | |
Dillard's LLC. Doing business as these diner at Dillard's chairman. This is located in Galeton. We have no concerns for | 00:30:57 | |
recommending approval. | 00:31:03 | |
OK, Mr. I apologize. Mr. Chair moved to approve the license. Moved by Commissioner Ross. Second by Commissioner James. Approve All | 00:31:10 | |
in favor. Opposed motion carries. | 00:31:15 | |
From Continent business, we're going to planning number one consider contract ID 6978, partial release of collateral and | 00:31:21 | |
acceptance of warranty warranty collateral for use by special review from the USSR 18-0065 Waste Management Disposal Services | 00:31:27 | |
Colorado, Inc. | 00:31:32 | |
Good morning, Commissioners Jasmine Trio Martinez with the Department of Planning Services. In regard to the Improvements in Rd. | 00:31:38 | |
Maintenance Agreement for Waste Management Disposal Services of Colorado, Incorporated, I submitted a pass around for your review | 00:31:45 | |
dated May 9th, 2023, which was signed by all 5 County Commissioners. We respectfully request the Board accept the reduction of | 00:31:52 | |
project project collateral in the amount of $623,247.39. | 00:32:00 | |
To the warranty collateral amount of $93,487.11 provided in the form of a bond rider to the original performance bond number LICX | 00:32:07 | |
1197283 issued by the Lexon Insurance Company and to be retained for the duration of the two year warranty period. Waste | 00:32:15 | |
Management has completed the required improvements and the Development Review Inspector and Public Works inspectors have inspected | 00:32:23 | |
and signed off on all improvements. | 00:32:31 | |
We are only requesting the reduction of the collateral and the terms of the road meat into agreement. | 00:32:39 | |
Will remain in effect for the life of the USSR. Thank you for your consideration on this item. | 00:32:44 | |
OK, what have any questions? | 00:32:50 | |
Move to Approve and move by Commissioner Buck. Second by Commissioner James to approve All in favor opposed motion carries. Thank | 00:32:53 | |
you #2 Second reason. Code Ordinance 2023-07. In the night of repealing and reenacting with amendments. Chapter 17 Public Places | 00:33:00 | |
of the world County Code Camping on public properties Agreed by title only. Second like Mr. James Second by Commissioner. Roster | 00:33:07 | |
read by title only. All in favor. Opposed motion carries Ordinance 2023-07 in the Meadow. | 00:33:15 | |
In acting. | 00:33:23 | |
With the members Chapter 17, Public Places of the World can code camping on public properties. We have no changes since the first | 00:33:24 | |
reading. | 00:33:29 | |
Questions of staff OK, this is a public hearing. Is there anybody in the public that wishes to come forward and discuss Code | 00:33:35 | |
Ordinance 2023-07? | 00:33:38 | |
Good morning, commissioners. My name is Steve Chiefs. I'm greedy. I just got a question or two of them. Actually one of them is. | 00:34:00 | |
Could you give me a little more insight about this? | 00:34:12 | |
Code Ordinance #1 and #2 where the people gonna go? | 00:34:18 | |
So go ahead. Well, I'll start off Steve and Bruce, if I just speak, please correct me. | 00:34:28 | |
This is saying you can't do overnight camping in public spaces inside unincorporated Weld County. So right now we don't have any | 00:34:37 | |
enforcement tools for our law enforcement officers should they come across somebody that's really camping where they shouldn't be | 00:34:44 | |
camping. And so this gives our law enforcement officers that enforcement tool that they can use to do it. There's multiple | 00:34:51 | |
homeless shelters here in Greeley that. | 00:34:59 | |
We can refer them to should we come across those individuals. So yeah, like the Guadalupe Center, you have various others where | 00:35:07 | |
individuals can go. So that's that's some of the knowledge I know about it. If anybody else would like to speak, feel free. | 00:35:15 | |
I think that pretty much covers. | 00:35:23 | |
Well, what I know, Gary, passenger doesn't have much room. They're very limited and then we got the cold weather shelter closed as | 00:35:28 | |
well and we need that. So year round, not just during the winter time. | 00:35:35 | |
So does that include people sleeping in their cars? | 00:35:45 | |
It's a good like it does. It does. OK. Thank you. | 00:35:51 | |
OK, any other public input? | 00:35:56 | |
On this code ordinance. | 00:35:59 | |
Techie Normal. Closer number it back to the board. | 00:36:02 | |
I should move to approve on second reading Code Ordinance 2023 Dash 07 second. | 00:36:07 | |
It's been moved like Mr. James, second like Mr. Ross to approve. | 00:36:12 | |
Any further discussion all in favor, aye, opposed motion carries. | 00:36:16 | |
#3 Emergency Code Ordinance 2023-08 in the matter. | 00:36:21 | |
In Chapter 21 Areas and Activities of State Interest of the Weld County Code Moratorium of 1041 s s. | 00:36:27 | |
Chairman, I was asked to put together this emergency code ordinance. | 00:36:34 | |
For the purposes of doing a moratorium. | 00:36:39 | |
On 1041 solar energy facilities. | 00:36:42 | |
And this would go until December 1st of 2023. | 00:36:46 | |
I do have a suggestion that would be. | 00:36:51 | |
To modify that so that you could. | 00:36:54 | |
How that if? | 00:36:58 | |
The after. | 00:36:59 | |
Working on this, having some stakeholder meetings. | 00:37:01 | |
You get it done before, then it would make it so that on. | 00:37:05 | |
On first reading of any changes. | 00:37:09 | |
The moratorium would go away. | 00:37:12 | |
So that modification would be. | 00:37:16 | |
At the end of the paragraph talks about the moratorium. | 00:37:19 | |
Umm. | 00:37:24 | |
Right. I was asked put this together and I did so and I fully support the the, your, your changes in that. The intention of this | 00:37:25 | |
was not made long term. The intention of this was not to make it go forever. It was, it was simply to have the opportunity to have | 00:37:32 | |
some stakeholder meetings, put some things in place and and hopefully have first reading within the next 30 to 60 days. | 00:37:39 | |
So I fully support that change in the and I worked on that language late yesterday and I will send it to all of you and to the | 00:37:46 | |
clerk. | 00:37:50 | |
So we probably need a motion to make that amendment to the to the resolution. Yes. Give me a minute. Sure. | 00:37:56 | |
OK. You want to open it up If you'd like to, you could do that or if there's anyone else. | 00:38:05 | |
Who would speak on the subject? | 00:38:10 | |
I'm fine with. Go ahead and and. | 00:38:13 | |
And open it up to the public law and then everybody will have a chance to see it, says the rest of the board. Comfortable with | 00:38:16 | |
that? I am. Yeah, I appreciate that. We did not take it off the agenda that. | 00:38:21 | |
We have the people here to speak on this and so I'm glad they're here. Good with that, we'll open it up for public input. | 00:38:26 | |
Everybody can have up to 3 minutes to come up and and discuss this code ordinance, so anybody would like to come and speak. | 00:38:33 | |
Yeah, please. | 00:38:42 | |
Please just state your name and address for the record, Troy. Thank you. OK, Yeah. | 00:38:44 | |
Please. | 00:38:51 | |
Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the Board of Commission. My name is Troy Whitmore. I'm Vice President of Public Affairs for | 00:38:54 | |
United Power Electric Cooperative that's based in Brighton, Co. | 00:39:00 | |
Serves about 40% of our 107,000 meters. | 00:39:06 | |
In Rogue County. | 00:39:10 | |
With perhaps 50 to 60% of our load in your county due to the thriving economy and the multiple users of of our commodity here in | 00:39:12 | |
Weld County. | 00:39:19 | |
We're here today just to to speak a little bit on clarifying on on the. | 00:39:27 | |
More time certainly we're we're not in in favor of any delays. | 00:39:32 | |
Um, because of some situations that I'd like to to brief you on. | 00:39:36 | |
In May of next year, we would be leaving our power supplier Tri-state Generation and Sam and the transmission. And the reason | 00:39:40 | |
we're leaving is to better able to meet our goals of affordability. | 00:39:46 | |
For our members, along with reliability and sustainability. | 00:39:53 | |
And with that comes the need to cite solar along with battery storage and natural gas generation within your county. Because of | 00:39:57 | |
the low within well county some of these locations, many of these locations especially for battery storage and even some of the | 00:40:04 | |
solar will be in or near our already created substations and others and and oil and gas. | 00:40:12 | |
Basins nearby, the facilities that are already cited. | 00:40:20 | |
By our friends in the oil and gas industry. | 00:40:24 | |
Now personally, I line up with you all. | 00:40:27 | |
On my frustrations with our ever changing regulations and the game changing. | 00:40:31 | |
Almost surely in our industry. | 00:40:37 | |
But. | 00:40:40 | |
We have to play within the rules that are given to us, whether it comes from. | 00:40:41 | |
Three weeks or whatever comes from Brighton. | 00:40:46 | |
Or comes from Denver. Yikes. And Washington, DC. | 00:40:49 | |
Because of our Certificate of Public convenience and necessity granted to us by the Colorado PUC. | 00:40:55 | |
We have an obligation to serve all comers. Anybody that's in our service territory, we have to serve. | 00:41:02 | |
With electric power. And by golly, it better be safe, it better be reliable, and it better be affordable. | 00:41:08 | |
With the continuous growth in in world and Adams County, we will be seeing probably a 600 MW peak load this summer and it won't be | 00:41:16 | |
long before there'll be 700 megawatts and maybe even within my career 1000 megawatts because of the need for electrification. | 00:41:25 | |
And oil and gas areas with our electric vehicles and the move to electrify a lot of the necessities in our homes, we will need | 00:41:34 | |
small, medium and large solar applications in our toolbox to meet these needs. But I emphasize coupled with battery storage and | 00:41:42 | |
with fossil fuels, we will have coal in our portfolio for the foreseeable future. But it is going away as you all know and we | 00:41:49 | |
certainly will be needing the product that is produced so well. | 00:41:57 | |
And so viciously here in rural County, that being natural gas to meet our needs when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't | 00:42:04 | |
blowing. | 00:42:09 | |
Our facilities in in this area will provide homegrown Well County electric power to Weld County members of the United Power and | 00:42:15 | |
besides providing reliable, affordable power to Weld County farms and businesses. | 00:42:22 | |
Well sites, municipal and county facilities, schools and churches, and the list goes on and on. These will provide tax revenue to | 00:42:30 | |
well county government and the citizens that use so diligently serve. | 00:42:36 | |
This morning at 7:30 I had a few moments to visit with our our CEO, Mark Gabriel. Most of you know him and he sends regrets that | 00:42:44 | |
he can't be here today due to other obligations. But here's 5 Boris that kind of reiterates what I said. | 00:42:51 | |
Certainly more succinctly. That's why he's the boss and I apologize on a hard deadline for power supply needs to support its | 00:42:58 | |
members by May 1, 2024. It's critical that we have local resources of all kinds, gas, storage and solar. To meet the needs of oil | 00:43:05 | |
and gas industry and agriculture industry in your county, it's critical that we keep tax revenues local. | 00:43:12 | |
To support our communities health. | 00:43:20 | |
Work cooperative. So we are very committed to our local communities. | 00:43:22 | |
We're concerned that the expansion of the grid and other resources will not happen in time. | 00:43:26 | |
That's why I'm here. | 00:43:31 | |
Our goal is to provide lower cost resources for our members immediately. | 00:43:32 | |
And for the long term. | 00:43:36 | |
So with that being said, if the moratorium passes, we ask you to be expeditious and working with us. | 00:43:39 | |
To to lift the moratorium. | 00:43:46 | |
We would prefer and great respect to. | 00:43:49 | |
Mr. Baker and Mr. Parco, it sounds like that's already been taken care of, that we could shorten that deadline maybe 90 days | 00:43:52 | |
instead of six months. | 00:43:56 | |
You are lost very well and we pledge that we will be here to work with you. | 00:44:01 | |
And thanks to the wonderful, crazy Rd. it only takes me 41 minutes to get here and the sheriff's behind me. And that's what they | 00:44:06 | |
did. | 00:44:10 | |
So you know, you can count on us. We'll be here. So thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Have a question for, for Troy. | 00:44:16 | |
Troy, do you have any projects currently in the works? This is specifically related to projects of 160 acres or greater. So this | 00:44:24 | |
doesn't touch or or or even have any change whatsoever on any projects smaller than 160 acres. It's those larger than 160 acres | 00:44:31 | |
that go through our 1041 process. | 00:44:38 | |
You currently have any in the works on that because right now from what I'm under the understanding, none have been submitted to | 00:44:45 | |
our planning department. At this point. I do not believe that we have anything over 160 acres submitted. We are in pre planning on | 00:44:51 | |
several battery locations at our substations and this is a time about that, a little bit earlier today, but it will not be long | 00:44:57 | |
when you will see us for some bigger projects. There's several in the works. So we're just concerned that if we kick the can down | 00:45:04 | |
the road. | 00:45:10 | |
Too far, too long. | 00:45:16 | |
And this moratorium goes 14 months, 18 months to have a real detrimental effect on us doing these kind of projects in this county. | 00:45:17 | |
And so is our members that come to us wanting to do these kind of projects somewhere in AG, yes. And and we understand the | 00:45:25 | |
complications there, but also some are in industrial areas right now right next to. | 00:45:33 | |
Well field facilities. | 00:45:41 | |
And one of our solar power solar farms is right in the mix. | 00:45:43 | |
And you can almost see it from Crossy Rd. but you can't quite see it from Kersey Rd. Wonderful facility serves oil and gas. So | 00:45:47 | |
we're just concerned about. | 00:45:51 | |
Delight. | 00:45:56 | |
Because when this hits, it's going to hit in a big way, and it's to be critical to our members that we move rapidly to make sure | 00:45:57 | |
that we have what we need to to serve them affordably. | 00:46:02 | |
Conveniently and to reap the benefits for the whole county. | 00:46:08 | |
Government World County citizens appreciate that. Yes. Do you guys serve other counties besides, well, county? Yes we do and I I | 00:46:12 | |
neglected in my notes we we're in six counties. | 00:46:17 | |
The bulk of our of our load is in atoms and wealth. | 00:46:22 | |
But we also are seeing a a bit of growth in Bloomfield if you know the Highway 7, Broomfield. | 00:46:26 | |
UM area, it's growing quite rapidly as well. So we have a lot of industrial tilt up buildings in Adams well in Broomfield going up | 00:46:31 | |
right and left and we know that there will be a lot of of low need there. So we really do envision the same kind of ask and | 00:46:38 | |
welfare and Adams County has enrolled county because of the growth just across the border and as you know there's some | 00:46:46 | |
opportunities around the International Airport. We'll be looking at those but the other ones as well. | 00:46:54 | |
And I can see probably more community solar type projects in the more suburban areas than here. | 00:47:01 | |
But we're open to those as well. | 00:47:08 | |
Thank you. | 00:47:11 | |
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. And I want to just say thank you so much for serving your members. So I'm. I represent a lot of United | 00:47:12 | |
Power members in my district as you well know and. | 00:47:17 | |
Um so I just, I just want to thank you that for for that and and then speaking yesterday about energy choice and and how that's | 00:47:22 | |
important not only to United Power but also to your members as well and. | 00:47:27 | |
The possibility of having some economies of scale actually driving some of those consumer prices down. | 00:47:34 | |
Which is of interest to me as well, because I hear a lot of people suffering. Taxes are going up, their energy rates are going up, | 00:47:41 | |
everything's going up, food's going up and it's it's really the wrong time to put doubt. | 00:47:46 | |
Into any processes that might increase cost for consumers and often. | 00:47:52 | |
My concern is more trends often have a joint effect on business and private property owners. So I just want to thank you so much | 00:47:58 | |
for coming forward. And and I do want to restate for the audience and because there's a statement that was made earlier, but had | 00:48:04 | |
this been taken off the agenda, public comment would afford you the same amount of time to speak on the topic. So I just want to | 00:48:09 | |
make sure you knew that you would still have an opportunity to speak on this policy regardless. | 00:48:14 | |
Rates are at our forefront because of the times that we are going through. | 00:48:21 | |
We've not had a rate increase of any significance in three years. | 00:48:25 | |
We thought we may have to do that this year, but because of growth and economies of scale, I think we're going to be able to go | 00:48:29 | |
another year, our goal in departing. | 00:48:34 | |
The power supply that we were one of seven entities that fund is that we think that we're out of market on the pricing that we're | 00:48:39 | |
receiving and we can do better and we can do better by creating. | 00:48:45 | |
The jobs and the infrastructure in our Home Counties. So we prefer to do it in a big way. And Adams and Roll County first, we will | 00:48:52 | |
be buying from elsewhere. You know, the wind map is not good in the United Power and Weld County, but you don't have to go very | 00:49:00 | |
far north as Commissioner Freeman well knows. And the wind map is terrific. So you know, this county is. | 00:49:07 | |
A wealth of resources and we want to make sure that. | 00:49:16 | |
Our partnership continues to be strong with Weld County in the future. | 00:49:19 | |
Absolutely. OK. Thanks. Correct. Thank you. | 00:49:24 | |
Not a public input. Yes, Chairman, can I? Two things. One is I. | 00:49:28 | |
Sent that language to you. OK, the second thing is, and this is highly important for an emergency ordinance. | 00:49:32 | |
You need to state what the emergency is and so you know I I sort of teed that up and I think that'd be something that you should | 00:49:40 | |
articulate. So I think I think really there's there's only there's only one there's only one real emergency we have that we kind | 00:49:47 | |
of have that in place with transmission temporary and stuff and that is is when we talk about compatibility is completely | 00:49:55 | |
subjective subjective compatibility and I think the emergency is we would like in place on the objective. | 00:50:02 | |
Some things that are objective to for us as a board to be able to determine compatibility based on where these are at. It's all | 00:50:10 | |
about location. It's always been all about location. If we're out in the middle of wherever it is, let's do the transmission line | 00:50:17 | |
with no rules and no impact to the to moving to moving people that makes it much more easier to be able to say that's absolutely | 00:50:24 | |
compatible there. If we're talking about a huge solar facility that has. | 00:50:31 | |
25 homes surrounding it or 100 homes surrounding it. It makes it more difficult to determine if that's compatible if it's | 00:50:38 | |
compatible though, because. | 00:50:43 | |
Let's not mistake the fact that a solar facility, a huge full solar facility, looks industrial. It looks like an industrial site | 00:50:48 | |
and sort of be able to put some objective compatibility in place I think is important. | 00:50:54 | |
Is that state that fairly, fairly does OK? | 00:51:02 | |
Fairly, fairly, fairly fairly. OK Go ahead, state your name. | 00:51:06 | |
I'm not taking my head up, absolutely not of disrespect for you. I can't see with the solar lights or the. | 00:51:10 | |
Besides the reflection off in my head you wouldn't be able to see me. | 00:51:19 | |
Yeah. | 00:51:23 | |
I don't 46576 Road County Road 18465081 County Road 18. | 00:51:24 | |
My grandkids on both sides and Southeast 12 are 6 generations. I'm proud to be a residential a resident of Weld County. I am a | 00:51:32 | |
conservative Republican. | 00:51:37 | |
Ohh, I will never drive an electric car. I will break the horse out before I do that. | 00:51:43 | |
But I'm here to state today, honestly, how many of you ever been to Southeast Well? | 00:51:48 | |
OK, so 18 and 93, There's not a lot out there. I tell people my neighbors are carrots, spray dogs and rattlesnakes. I'm fine with | 00:51:54 | |
that. | 00:51:58 | |
I also think that I'm I'm in a service. | 00:52:03 | |
I was in Washington DC in the 70s with American Act. | 00:52:08 | |
One of the big concerns back then was as we see. | 00:52:12 | |
Agricultural ground taken up by urban sprawl. | 00:52:16 | |
Roads. | 00:52:20 | |
I understand that concern, but when I look at our area then I find time down the Southeast well that produced phenomenal heat. | 00:52:22 | |
That's not my place. | 00:52:31 | |
But these places back in COPD, I'm labeled by another gentleman that has 1100 acres of CRP. | 00:52:33 | |
There's 900 acres of pasture and there's 160 acres by a cousin that's owned. | 00:52:40 | |
That is flammable. | 00:52:46 | |
But in the year like last year, I think God daily at my place was in CRP because we're strong chosen N to me that are now covered | 00:52:48 | |
in sand. | 00:52:53 | |
So in negotiations with the solar company that I negotiated with, that was something that was. | 00:52:59 | |
Dog. | 00:53:07 | |
Immensely. And I I will go a lot to my children. I have two sons that are called school mines grads. | 00:53:08 | |
We send the four year high performance diesel mechanic in our life is. | 00:53:16 | |
And my wife, my daughter, is the director of. | 00:53:20 | |
Karina Development Hospital in Grand Junction. | 00:53:25 | |
All of that said, I struggled to graduate from high school. | 00:53:27 | |
I put the power in our decision in this project to them. | 00:53:31 | |
Because we are interested in how the land is used. | 00:53:34 | |
Marlin, Chunk and Radish were the energy company that I signed with. | 00:53:39 | |
You couldn't do. Better use than put server panels on it. | 00:53:44 | |
You couldn't. My dad tried to find it in strips. | 00:53:48 | |
Ohh, it was a train wreck. You can still see out there where during the 50s and 60s the rows in between the strips group you know | 00:53:52 | |
blew up like this. | 00:53:56 | |
So. | 00:54:01 | |
Umm. | 00:54:02 | |
It was also positive to those of you who remember the Side Buster book. | 00:54:05 | |
That type of ground work on project more so show. | 00:54:09 | |
Just on the edge, but then there should have been broke. | 00:54:12 | |
I would be opposed to solar plans panels going on some of the other fine ground South of lagging. We own that, we farm it. | 00:54:16 | |
It's very good Kingdom if you talk about land use. | 00:54:25 | |
This is a prime location. Morgan County did the same thing. Because I my island, another business in Morgan County, they put a | 00:54:30 | |
moratorium on it. | 00:54:34 | |
I think it's responsible. | 00:54:39 | |
They've got 75,000 acres is my understanding out. The old would be an oil field that's gone in with panels and. | 00:54:41 | |
Wind turbines. Some type of soil is mine. | 00:54:48 | |
So I guess any other question I have for you. You talked about a committee. I would like to serve on that committee. | 00:54:52 | |
Absolutely. We'll have stakeholder meetings on this. And and what you're talking about is exactly, is exactly was exactly what I | 00:54:59 | |
was talking about. Yeah, there's a compatible place for these and there's a place that's not. And we just need to be able to get | 00:55:03 | |
to that spot you get even. | 00:55:08 | |
The cousin that I referred to his 160 you get South of there and serve the topographical maps where my place, the best my dad ever | 00:55:13 | |
raised, was 30 bushel wheat, and I was on an exceptional year in the 70s. | 00:55:19 | |
You get salsa. There's 50 and 60 bushel plus sweet bro. | 00:55:25 | |
But I guess my encouragement as you spoke, I think it's something we have to look at. I don't like it. I spent 28 years, you know, | 00:55:29 | |
own gas on my lease on my phone I subject I. | 00:55:35 | |
Set up an additional 50 acres so that we can do a horizontal drill. | 00:55:41 | |
If we get an early start, comes in. | 00:55:45 | |
So. | 00:55:49 | |
I thank you for hearing me, but. | 00:55:50 | |
I think this is one. It's very fragile. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sir. | 00:55:53 | |
OK, other public input. | 00:55:57 | |
Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Mark Wyland and I live in Cleveland, and I would like to speak on the proposed moratorium | 00:56:08 | |
for 1041. | 00:56:14 | |
Future of energy in the nation and State Wild County. | 00:56:22 | |
Umm. | 00:56:27 | |
It will have to take a combination of sources, of course. Oil, gas will continue to be. | 00:56:29 | |
Employment in the future, but will also continue to diminish in availability as an energy source. | 00:56:34 | |
Resources are needed. | 00:56:44 | |
And this includes large server farms which will have a big impact on energy in the future. | 00:56:47 | |
And so it's very important. | 00:56:54 | |
And I also believe that there's an organization that does solar farming. | 00:56:59 | |
And that could be. | 00:57:04 | |
Put potentially used in the large. | 00:57:06 | |
Sort of formulas, but I. | 00:57:11 | |
I think it's really important. | 00:57:13 | |
The solar farms, large ones are needed. | 00:57:16 | |
As a as a part of our energy portfolio in the county. So thank you very much. Thank you. | 00:57:20 | |
OK, other public input. | 00:57:29 | |
Good morning, commissioners and staff. My name is Sharon Johnson and I live in Evans and thank you for this opportunity. | 00:57:38 | |
To speak, I am here in support of diversifying energy production. | 00:57:45 | |
Alright, sorry. | 00:57:50 | |
We already have a strong presence of oil and gas, but right now is the time to encourage the development of renewables like solar. | 00:57:52 | |
And wind. | 00:58:01 | |
And I don't think we have the luxury of putting robots. | 00:58:03 | |
In the way of such development. | 00:58:06 | |
And I feel like the moratorium on 1041 is a step backwards. | 00:58:09 | |
And I strongly oppose such an action. | 00:58:15 | |
And I expect, I expect our commissioners, you commissioners to provide both, both leadership during this time. | 00:58:18 | |
And I don't want Weld County to look like coal country. | 00:58:26 | |
In West Virginia, Wyoming. | 00:58:31 | |
In Kentucky, we we need a vital forward-looking county. | 00:58:34 | |
The leadership is crucial. | 00:58:39 | |
So Rd. residents and workers are not left behind. | 00:58:41 | |
From this inevitable transition. | 00:58:46 | |
Turntable energy. | 00:58:49 | |
So the message out that. | 00:59:20 | |
Um, you're not welcome, you know. | 00:59:23 | |
Solar solar maker, solar phones are not welcome. And I feel like that's a real detriment to the county. OK, thank you. | 00:59:26 | |
Other public comment. | 00:59:34 | |
Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, My name is Steve Gable. | 00:59:36 | |
I own and operate with my family, a commercial cattle feeding company. | 00:59:40 | |
On the Morgan and Weld County border southwest of Wiggins Co. | 00:59:46 | |
We also run about 600 mother cows and farm close to 5000 acres. | 00:59:51 | |
Of both irrigated and dry land. | 00:59:56 | |
I'm a 65 year old resident of Weld County. | 00:59:59 | |
I've been here my entire life. | 01:00:03 | |
And I'm here to support. | 01:00:06 | |
Our energy development partners. | 01:00:09 | |
And although I respect. | 01:00:13 | |
The approach that this Commission has taken with respect. | 01:00:16 | |
Not only to legacy and to energy production. | 01:00:21 | |
But also alternative sources of energy production. | 01:00:26 | |
I am sorry, Genova wrote on a moratorium. | 01:00:32 | |
Only because of the message that it sends. | 01:00:36 | |
I understand. And conversations. | 01:00:40 | |
But my families had with members of this Commission. | 01:00:43 | |
That it's only 60 days, maybe 90 at the most. | 01:00:47 | |
And while I respect that, I know that the development. | 01:00:52 | |
Partners that are involved in these projects. | 01:00:56 | |
Have considerable investments. | 01:01:00 | |
And any potential delay? | 01:01:02 | |
In their ability to permit and go forward. | 01:01:06 | |
Becomes cost prohibitive. | 01:01:10 | |
I agree with the comments that have been made about. | 01:01:14 | |
Put it for supposed to be. | 01:01:18 | |
I agree with Mr. Neil, but there are. | 01:01:21 | |
Parts of. | 01:01:24 | |
Southeastern Weld County, northeastern Weld County. | 01:01:26 | |
That are appropriate for these size operations. | 01:01:30 | |
We are currently. | 01:01:36 | |
Our contracted. | 01:01:37 | |
With the development company that is working on a 400. | 01:01:40 | |
To 650 MW project. | 01:01:44 | |
Given our locations as a family, we'll own about 15,000 acres of land. | 01:01:48 | |
Mostly in Weld County, but some in Morgan. | 01:01:55 | |
They're very close to to Mr. Neil's properties. | 01:01:59 | |
Uh, we've got property in northeastern Colorado, but in northeastern Weld County that would be ideal for this kind of facility. | 01:02:03 | |
And although I respect. | 01:02:13 | |
Your willingness to put brakes on and put some parameters around this kind of development. | 01:02:18 | |
I still encourage a no vote, mostly because of the message. | 01:02:24 | |
That it sends to the end users, to the power companies. | 01:02:29 | |
And to the development partners that are involved. | 01:02:33 | |
Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Steve. OK, further public input, Yeah. | 01:02:37 | |
Good morning, commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Matt Mooney. I work for Balanced Rock Power. I'm a | 01:02:46 | |
resident of Denver. | 01:02:50 | |
Working with the Cable family and Magnum feed lot, that's the location of our our project. | 01:02:55 | |
We submitted a PRE application. | 01:03:02 | |
A 12 county planning and October of last year we received favorable feedback. Also things we could do to improve our layout in our | 01:03:05 | |
site. | 01:03:09 | |
As you can probably guess, we're involved in the Excel procurement processes underway right now and this is a sensitive time for | 01:03:16 | |
us where it's, it's big stakes as as Mr. Gable mentioned. | 01:03:22 | |
Um, you know the, the, the sizes that we're talking about are pretty large, close to a billion dollars in CapEx. | 01:03:30 | |
When we reach. | 01:03:40 | |
The phase two process decision with Excel, there will be negotiations that occur around November and we're going to be asked to | 01:03:42 | |
pose significant amounts of security. | 01:03:48 | |
To solidify with Excel that we will be online when we say we will be and. | 01:03:54 | |
For the size of the projects we're talking about. | 01:04:00 | |
Those security announcer Well north of $50 million. | 01:04:02 | |
And for us? | 01:04:06 | |
Just in terms of our schedule. | 01:04:08 | |
We're preparing our application now for the the county to review. | 01:04:10 | |
Return submitted in August, early August and we would like to have you know. | 01:04:15 | |
At least, Scott, you completed the process, reached the decision. | 01:04:22 | |
Before we're faced in asking the investment community to close that security. | 01:04:26 | |
So that's window into what? | 01:04:31 | |
The blanket moratorium on the county and on the site that. | 01:04:35 | |
You know, to to date we understand this largely in one of the, you know, the appropriate areas. | 01:04:39 | |
Um would would be impact. We would be impacted by that. | 01:04:45 | |
So thank you for your time. Thank you. | 01:04:50 | |
Other public input. | 01:04:54 | |
Can I ask him how many acres did he say? | 01:04:56 | |
How many acres? | 01:05:00 | |
So our site straddles the county line, it's 8500 acres, 8500 approximately 4000 in Wells County. | 01:05:02 | |
4000 acres. | 01:05:12 | |
OK. | 01:05:15 | |
Hi, my name is Melissa Taylor. I'm with Ng North America actually flowing here for you with my address. I flew in here from Salt | 01:05:20 | |
Lake. I'm in very early development on some several different locations in Weld County and have ongoing relationships with our | 01:05:27 | |
project partners who are the land owners here. Wonderful people, always love coming to visit the county. They were unable, at | 01:05:34 | |
least a few ones I spoke to today were unable to make it today. | 01:05:41 | |
Assured that might come and kind of represents what is important to them, what's important to us. I can tell you from I hadn't | 01:05:48 | |
planned on making a comment on this, but when it comes to, you know whether these projects are cited, we are Angie is one of the | 01:05:56 | |
largest developers in North America. We actually got our start with building the Suez Canal. So we're always trying to look for | 01:06:04 | |
different solutions that serve everybody one of our earliest criterias for siding projects. | 01:06:11 | |
Is to. | 01:06:19 | |
Aggressively avoid but any residential areas or anything that might be construed in any way as being densely populated and have an | 01:06:21 | |
impact on the residences that are nearby. There was a lot of great arguments made today for the case of solar. I didn't come so | 01:06:28 | |
much to address that today. More of the moratorium and the message it sends. | 01:06:36 | |
I know private property is, I mean professionally and also personally. And I've discussed this with you know, the land owners with | 01:06:44 | |
partner with a very near and dear issue. I wanted to give you guys a quote from Russell Kirk is one of my original heroes and he | 01:06:52 | |
says that if you separate private property from private possession, Leviathan becomes master of all. So swapping governmental | 01:06:59 | |
heavy-handed, one-size-fits-all across everyone's land, even if it's temporary, it sends a message. | 01:07:07 | |
That. | 01:07:14 | |
There is going to be an abrupt stop of process and robust conversation. | 01:07:15 | |
It can lead to. | 01:07:22 | |
It's antithetical to healthy community and it's antithetical to the moral development of a community and society which must hold | 01:07:24 | |
an extremely high regard, the self governance and possession of private property. | 01:07:30 | |
And while Torium that might impact the project is going to detrimentally affect specifically some of the ranchers that I know. | 01:07:37 | |
Um, they're not super large ranchers. Their land isn't producing a lot. It's dry land. And this is enabling them to diversify | 01:07:48 | |
their land use so that they can actually expand their ranch. | 01:07:55 | |
I don't know of anyone that we are dealing with right now that is planning on using agricultural land. So I think it perhaps might | 01:08:04 | |
be a little bit of a straw man to say that you know we're just saying this to protect the farmland this this is land. We we very | 01:08:11 | |
carefully along with land owners always analyze where land is best for what use. And I think leaving that decision up to the | 01:08:18 | |
individual landowner and what they want to do with that is is just really. | 01:08:25 | |
Essential to the foundation of private property. Then they would those their feelings as well. | 01:08:33 | |
So. | 01:08:39 | |
That's it. OK. Thank you. | 01:08:41 | |
Other public comment. | 01:08:44 | |
Good morning, Commissioners. | 01:08:54 | |
My name is Craig Rasmussen. I'm a resident here of Greeley, 6600 W 20th St. Also have an office here in Greeley, fortunately. | 01:08:56 | |
And I will share with you. I'm standing here a little bit more. I'm tired because I didn't sleep at all last night because I heard | 01:09:07 | |
about this at 6:30 last night. | 01:09:11 | |
That upsets me personally because I brought business back to Weld County. | 01:09:15 | |
After living in Denver with my own gas company that this is deja vu, I feel like I'm back at the state capital Titan for. | 01:09:20 | |
An industry? | 01:09:31 | |
And to me it's it's not necessary. I'm gonna layout some some points and talking points for you guys to consider. Again, there was | 01:09:34 | |
zero time for us to prepare. I have four or five land owners. | 01:09:39 | |
But I love Charlie Dry Land land owners. | 01:09:45 | |
Crazy woman that wanted to be here, but because of the timing of this, they weren't able to be here. | 01:09:49 | |
I will share with you the one more time is fatal. It was fatal Durham gas in our state the investment opportunity. | 01:09:56 | |
God who is a pure company of ours with Balance Rock, we computed for the same leases that he's standing here talking about. We | 01:10:05 | |
fortunately picked up 20,000 acres of leased from all reputation of being an oil and gas company that did as they said they were | 01:10:12 | |
going to do and we're pouring our residents and folks who have to work with us. | 01:10:18 | |
About 6000 of those five of those 20,000 acres are in one county. There's no water. There is no active dry land farming happening. | 01:10:25 | |
This is Ross land that has water use that is extremely impactful for the families. | 01:10:34 | |
That we're going ahead and preparing to pay them hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of dollars an acre. | 01:10:43 | |
Throughout the right to develop on their property. These are gentlemen that unfortunately for them, we're just outside of your own | 01:10:50 | |
gas window that's on the I-76 corridor. It's eastern Weld County and they could not go ahead and get their minerals developed and | 01:10:58 | |
this is an opportunity for them to have a windfall financially for their family and their 456 generation farmers and ranchers. | 01:11:06 | |
Not sure why this is necessary. The things you're talking about for them understanding this is not my business, but you all know | 01:11:15 | |
you have pre applications in. | 01:11:20 | |
Do you business? | 01:11:26 | |
Grab stakeholders. | 01:11:28 | |
Grab your planners and put the processes you need in place to objectively go ahead. | 01:11:30 | |
And so you'll know to each location. | 01:11:35 | |
It's rather like what we did with with oil and gas all the way through. | 01:11:38 | |
I was very proud of our own gas days. We drove the nine different municipalities. | 01:11:42 | |
I don't want to go for the 1041 one time in Orland Gas, Weld County, but I had to go in front of Birth and Longmont in Johnstown | 01:11:47 | |
multiple times and crazy. | 01:11:52 | |
And eaten and really multiple times and we're always deals with said we were going to do and sometimes it flip and sometimes it | 01:11:57 | |
didn't and when it didn't. | 01:12:01 | |
It has to move on. If we as developers of Solar are not smart enough to know that you shouldn't be putting something under a set | 01:12:06 | |
of pivot and take an ad. | 01:12:11 | |
Well done. That's the least you wanna take. | 01:12:16 | |
Sure, my room. You probably just wasted money because it's probably not going to get through. | 01:12:19 | |
We share with you and we're doing our lease in the last eight months chasing the power pathway of XLS they're trying to turn on 6 | 01:12:25 | |
gigawatts of power in the next five years. | 01:12:30 | |
Hold that one goes through Washington County. | 01:12:35 | |
As we were doing our leasing. | 01:12:38 | |
The last year of time we did not reach out to 1 land owner in Washington County. | 01:12:41 | |
Because we didn't want to deal with the moratorium that Washington County had on renewables during that time. | 01:12:47 | |
Too bad for those land owners that could have gotten some revenue for land that is a good fit. | 01:12:54 | |
And there's good foot land here in Weld County. You guys can figure that out through your planning process? | 01:13:01 | |
So two more points for you. | 01:13:16 | |
Well, have you ever choose to really bring this business here because really in Weld County have always been to me home and the | 01:13:22 | |
opportunity to go ahead and be pro business? | 01:13:28 | |
And they were. | 01:13:35 | |
Sensible about everything we did if I had to go come September, October, November and look to get investors in on one of my 2 to | 01:13:37 | |
$400 million projects. | 01:13:44 | |
This. | 01:13:52 | |
And. | 01:13:53 | |
Those investors know that there was a moratorium. | 01:13:54 | |
Within the county, then working to get investment on. | 01:13:58 | |
Actually, the capital. | 01:14:01 | |
It's the same thing that I couldn't get done with oil and gas. It's the same reason I'm standing up here representing A renewable | 01:14:02 | |
company. | 01:14:06 | |
If Ryan Gas was a consolidated and the instrument out. | 01:14:10 | |
Problem that stand here talking today because I could still be employed here and gas business. | 01:14:15 | |
Grossly. | 01:14:20 | |
As I stated earlier. | 01:14:22 | |
To me this is very hasty and the word moratorium is very formal. | 01:14:24 | |
Thank you for your time. | 01:14:30 | |
Good morning and thank you for your time here. My name is Sam Wait and I'm representing balance track power as well. | 01:14:40 | |
And while I can't claim to have grown up in Wells County, I did grow up in central Illinois, not only service to share. | 01:14:45 | |
I deeply appreciate the need to preserve good agricultural land, and that need is stronger now more than ever. | 01:14:53 | |
However, this moratorium is going to negatively impact the projects. | 01:14:59 | |
But as has already been communicated, is going to benefit people. | 01:15:04 | |
Whose Land is Prime fit for Solar? | 01:15:08 | |
And to use the word of Commissioner Freeman, very compatible with what it is that you are looking for. | 01:15:11 | |
I don't want to give you information you already know and outline. | 01:15:17 | |
40 years worth of millions of dollars of tax credits that were tax revenue. Sorry, that will come into this county. | 01:15:21 | |
With these projects and more as the projects continue to be developed in this area. | 01:15:28 | |
This is information that you already have and doesn't deserve the time. | 01:15:34 | |
However, I'm very concerned. | 01:15:38 | |
That this moratorium will negatively impact all of the projects in this county. | 01:15:41 | |
As people hear that word, moratorium and they turn around and they run away. | 01:15:45 | |
I'll keep this short because. | 01:15:52 | |
If I want to make sure I'm respecting the time for the. | 01:15:55 | |
Presidents of Weld County. | 01:15:58 | |
But I want to make sure that we are properly thinking through. | 01:16:00 | |
The impacts as well as what the intention is. | 01:16:06 | |
The intention is to make sure that the projects that are moving forward in development are placed in compatible areas. I think | 01:16:10 | |
that is a process that can be accomplished through the systems that are currently in place. | 01:16:15 | |
Without a moratorium, that will scare away. | 01:16:21 | |
Potentially future millions and millions of dollars for this county. | 01:16:24 | |
And I hope. | 01:16:28 | |
That you're able to hear that from all of these people here today. Thank you for your time. Thank you. | 01:16:29 | |
The other question, Mr. Chair, excuse me if you don't mind. I have, I do have a question for you. Let's address the tax credits | 01:16:34 | |
and solar credits that you say you're coming to Well County, how does that benefit Well County tax revenue from the energy | 01:16:40 | |
generated And to speak to that more directly, if I'm being entirely honest, my role within balance right power is as a design | 01:16:45 | |
engineer. | 01:16:50 | |
So I'm. | 01:16:56 | |
Much more qualified to tell you about how the power is generated and the technology involved in that to get more details around | 01:16:58 | |
the tax credits and revenue that will come to the county itself. | 01:17:03 | |
I would like to defer to Mr. Moody here, who spoke earlier as a fellow representative of the same company. | 01:17:08 | |
Thank you. Any other public comment. | 01:17:16 | |
Good morning, Shane Edgington. I live in Windsor and for transparency Consultant and I represent several of the developers that | 01:17:24 | |
are working on solar projects in local county and around Colorado. | 01:17:29 | |
As you consider this moratorium. | 01:17:37 | |
I would caution the Commission on 3 levels. | 01:17:40 | |
First, the sort of. | 01:17:45 | |
Action moratorium. | 01:17:47 | |
It's typically not driven by the majority of public interest, it's driven by the squeaky wheel, personal interests and small | 01:17:50 | |
group. You shouldn't. You should be mindful of that as you consider this. | 01:17:56 | |
Moratoriums like this are historically anti business, anti revenue you've heard from. | 01:18:04 | |
Other developers are from the United Power. Very important. You haven't heard from anybody from Exile. I hope somebody is here, | 01:18:12 | |
but the key factor there is the timing of these. You heard United Powers deadlines Excel deadlines as they're considering projects | 01:18:18 | |
and there's a whole group of them. Meanwhile, County Excels guideline will be at the end of September. | 01:18:25 | |
A mother pointing like this will kill. | 01:18:33 | |
Most, if not all of those projects in consideration. | 01:18:37 | |
And speaking to the revenue issue, just property tax as a as a starter, the property taxes on a project and let's say 200 MW | 01:18:41 | |
project which is 1200 acres. | 01:18:47 | |
Millions like 10s and 20s and millions of dollars in tax revenue over the course of the project. | 01:18:55 | |
But there is an additional credits or anything on top of the property tax. | 01:19:04 | |
That I'm not aware of. Not that I'm aware. OK, I just make this right. Clarify. | 01:19:08 | |
2nd caution Is this right in an emergency? | 01:19:14 | |
You know, to do an emergency action like this, what I understood from Commissioner Freeman was we're trying to determine | 01:19:19 | |
subjectivity versus objectivity on compatibility. Well, what's changed? What counties? That's a pretty unique position to deal | 01:19:24 | |
with this sort of thing. | 01:19:30 | |
The the process is not in place and have been in place and you don't the industry that are already here, your processes are are | 01:19:38 | |
good enough to deal with this while you consider. | 01:19:42 | |
Why do you have stakeholder investment while you consider and try to come up with your objectivity? | 01:19:47 | |
But what's changed? What's the mergency right now? | 01:19:52 | |
Again, considering what's gonna happen to projects if more important goes in place. | 01:19:56 | |
I'm at a meeting if, if, if, if the Commission's gonna insist on moratorium. | 01:20:02 | |
It should be reasonable, in short. | 01:20:10 | |
Six months is too long again given the deadlines that that the developers and your utilities bumping up against. | 01:20:13 | |
And reasonableness, I think. | 01:20:21 | |
It would be very careful of what's your objective standards going to be and this is again the caution. This is for caution. | 01:20:25 | |
Moratoriums are happening all over the country. | 01:20:37 | |
And the reaction to those is what you should be concerned about the lot of. | 01:20:40 | |
Discussion about You don't want to be governed by Denver. | 01:20:47 | |
Yeah. | 01:20:50 | |
California put a lot more time in California counties put a lot more forums in. New York counties put a lot more emporiums. In, | 01:20:52 | |
most recently Illinois. The reaction to that was at the state level. The state came in and said OK. | 01:20:59 | |
If you're going to do this way, there's going to be state legislation governing the permitting projects like this. | 01:21:07 | |
Thermo is very good example, very similar, and the balance card guy can probably testify this. | 01:21:15 | |
Chicago runs the state politically. Lots of rural areas South of Chicago, people don't think about that. All the solar farms and | 01:21:22 | |
wind farms going in the rural areas, well, they start putting reforms in. Legislature came in and said, Nope, we're not gonna let | 01:21:28 | |
you do that here, You come in, you guys can force this, but here is the permanence. Here's your permanent process. I don't think | 01:21:34 | |
that's what you want here, but recognize your your current governor and your current administration and you can kind of see the | 01:21:40 | |
path. | 01:21:46 | |
My head down, so again I just caution you. | 01:21:52 | |
The more training Microsoft sends, a message anyway for more even lengthy moratorium is legislation in of itself. You need input | 01:21:55 | |
for that, and I understand you want to get to a point, but just be cautious about this if the terrible message is sent. | 01:22:04 | |
Thank you, Commissioner Davis. | 01:22:13 | |
Mr. Chairman, I just we discussed an emergency ordinance. I'm already have emergency loan, can we can have request 5 minutes to | 01:22:15 | |
reset please? | 01:22:19 | |
Commissioner. | 01:22:26 | |
OK, we're gonna go ahead and reconvene guys. | 01:32:15 | |
The other one. | 01:32:20 | |
Let's go, Let's go. Let's go ahead and reconvene. | 01:32:21 | |
Umm. | 01:32:24 | |
Excuse me, can I see a show hands? How many more people want to speak? | 01:32:26 | |
Yeah. | 01:32:31 | |
2. | 01:32:32 | |
Two more. OK, go ahead. Go ahead. We're just getting really far behind this morning. So I just wanted to kind of the frame from | 01:32:33 | |
where we're at because we'll get people that need to leave. So go ahead, Sherry, I couldn't. Morning, Mr. Chairman and Board. | 01:32:39 | |
Thank you. Thank you for your time this morning. So my name is Vince Green and Senior Director of Development for Light Source BP. | 01:32:45 | |
We have projects in Weld County that were that were actively developing. I think we recognize the concerns of of everyone here on | 01:32:52 | |
the board and in the community about about location, about sitting. I guess what I want to say is that you know we don't we we | 01:33:00 | |
definitely want to be a part of this stakeholder process. | 01:33:07 | |
So we're not moving our application forward until we've addressed everybody's concerns, the county's concerns and we plan to do | 01:33:16 | |
that in the stakeholder process. | 01:33:21 | |
And so we don't believe that a moratorium is necessary. | 01:33:26 | |
I think the 1041 right now protects protects the county from that and and I recognize that you know if we can't put together good | 01:33:31 | |
projects, they're just not going to get permitted. So we look forward to to working with you. We look forward to having to see the | 01:33:37 | |
table and I appreciate your time. Thank you. | 01:33:43 | |
OK. | 01:33:51 | |
Hello Breezy Carlson, I am actually from Lakewood, Co by pioneering a 15 year oil and gas attorney ironically enough, and I gave | 01:33:55 | |
this very similar testimony in Arapahoe County in support of oil and gas. | 01:34:03 | |
About a month ago and and just say I have no doubt in the fight would be a lie and unfair because just like Craig so many of our | 01:34:11 | |
skill sets are transferable and I am working for solar clients in solar space. I would also echo his sentiment that. | 01:34:22 | |
The land owners and constituents on both sides of this fine. | 01:34:32 | |
Finding suitable land uses is difficult and there is one of all of our favorite terms. But my testimony in front of an Apple hotel | 01:34:37 | |
and was less about actual land use and less about stakeholder concerns and more about liability for the county itself. I think | 01:34:44 | |
something really great to think about is the use of private property rights and then it actually does constitute a taking which is | 01:34:51 | |
supported in Boulder. | 01:34:57 | |
Yes, 10 year ago Boulder County had a moratorium on oil and gas. I don't know if any of you know, but some of the first ones were | 01:35:05 | |
killed in Boulder County. Boulder County roads to Amazon everyday. But we don't like House of fuels, right. So we're doing | 01:35:11 | |
accident more Torium and landowner was unable to lease their person and they could prove damages and Boulder County had to | 01:35:17 | |
compensate those damages. So I understand that you guys are faced with a lot of very difficult decisions and some feelings on | 01:35:23 | |
either side of the aisle. | 01:35:28 | |
Welcome billing that has been removed, reasonable chance to work with, and I do believe that to avoid liability, you have existing | 01:35:35 | |
avenues to deal with these challenges in place. | 01:35:42 | |
You approve them on that space, but you'll be most capable of doing so. | 01:35:50 | |
And as such, I would make the argument that there are solutions outside of a moratorium. | 01:35:56 | |
And a moratorium would single handedly open the country up to unnecessary liability. | 01:36:02 | |
Thank you. | 01:36:10 | |
OK. | 01:36:12 | |
Is there is there any other public input? | 01:36:12 | |
OK, seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public input and bring it back to the board for discussion. | 01:36:17 | |
Commissioner James, thank you and thank you all for for coming to Test 5 certainly heard you. | 01:36:23 | |
Let's let's be candid about the crux of of why we're even having this conversation. | 01:36:30 | |
Many of us don't like the mandates that come out of the gold Dome. | 01:36:36 | |
But it's it's my, in the interest of Full disclosure, my college roommate Troy Whitmore said. And I'll say much more colorful you | 01:36:41 | |
than you, Mr. Lavender shirt. Don't hate the player, hate the game. | 01:36:46 | |
It is the rules by which they have been given that they're playing within. | 01:36:52 | |
I would agree with that. | 01:36:57 | |
The. | 01:36:59 | |
I I wanna echo on on the comment by one of the gentlemen, what is the emergency that we're trying to address? | 01:37:01 | |
The the market has been created, artificial or not, but it's been created and the players are playing the game. | 01:37:10 | |
So therefore, there is is a rush to come to Weld County, to do what Weld County's best known for, and that's defined a way and and | 01:37:17 | |
to to foster. | 01:37:22 | |
Economic opportunity and and development. | 01:37:27 | |
I understand the consternation. I share it quite frankly of. | 01:37:32 | |
Put an objectivity to compatibility. | 01:37:37 | |
Because the bottom line on some of these massive facilities. | 01:37:41 | |
You know we've heard about multi thousands of acres in testimony today. The bottom line on some of these nasty facilities is the | 01:37:45 | |
impact that creates our neighbors. | 01:37:49 | |
And they are industrial in nature. So how can one gain a foothold on compatibility and I think that's the conversation that we. | 01:37:53 | |
We've all had on this board of County Commissioners is how do we get to compatibility. | 01:38:00 | |
And then is it subjective merely to the? To the wind, to the neighbors? Can we put some objective criteria in with compatibility? | 01:38:06 | |
But frankly, we have known about this for months. | 01:38:10 | |
And the onus is on us. | 01:38:16 | |
To develop that that criteria and to to take a look at our code. | 01:38:19 | |
And we have not acted. | 01:38:23 | |
So I agree with the comments of of where is is the emergency. | 01:38:26 | |
We have some. We have protection and our 1041 authority. | 01:38:32 | |
It is. | 01:38:38 | |
Something that I extremely struggle with. The word moratorium and well county should not collide in the same sentence. | 01:38:40 | |
And uh. | 01:38:48 | |
That's my thoughts, Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair. | 01:38:50 | |
Mr. Ross. | 01:38:53 | |
I wanna, I guess, echo some of the comments of Commissioner James. First of all, I got to thank some of you for speaking directly. | 01:38:55 | |
If I didn't get to talk to you, I want to thank everyone for for speaking. It does take courage to step in front of that | 01:38:59 | |
microphone. | 01:39:03 | |
And share your concerns. | 01:39:07 | |
Umm. | 01:39:10 | |
We do have. | 01:39:14 | |
An issue in my. | 01:39:16 | |
Opinion. And that's getting to that. | 01:39:20 | |
Objectivity over subjectivity when we're considering those cases because. | 01:39:24 | |
While it is a right to own that land, to change that use. | 01:39:29 | |
Has to be scrutinized so that we aren't providing or causing harm. Excuse me. | 01:39:35 | |
To others. | 01:39:40 | |
Surrounding that potential land use. | 01:39:42 | |
And so that's why we take this. I think so. | 01:39:44 | |
Um. | 01:39:47 | |
So seriously. | 01:39:49 | |
Uh. | 01:39:50 | |
Now I completely agree with you. We've known about this for months. | 01:39:51 | |
And it's it's It needs to be acted upon because as the. | 01:39:56 | |
Time comes for Excel or others that they're having their threshold and timeline done for releasing these projects. | 01:40:02 | |
We're coming up against it and I think maybe that's where the heart of the emergency inside of this. | 01:40:09 | |
I came from so that we have the opportunity or or or understanding out there that. | 01:40:15 | |
There is something that needs to be fixed. It's not quite. | 01:40:20 | |
Right in these large scale solar projects over 160 acres that go through this 1041 process. | 01:40:24 | |
I don't like moratoriums, I. | 01:40:34 | |
I'm of a business mindset. I don't think they're healthy for anyone, whether that's a. | 01:40:37 | |
Municipality and county, state, I really don't care because now you're playing in the free market enterprise and you are. | 01:40:45 | |
Interfering with that and I think that's detrimental on on many means what I did here today in a lot of the. | 01:40:53 | |
Comments is. | 01:41:01 | |
Ohh. | 01:41:03 | |
I'll come with partners because everybody in here have you as a partner. | 01:41:04 | |
Recognizes that, yeah, we want to do this the right way. Let's get to the right. | 01:41:07 | |
Let's get to the right solution. We're just in a time crunch. | 01:41:13 | |
To do that. Um, but I'm not in favor of moratoriums. | 01:41:17 | |
I guess that's my two cents for now. I can chime in later. Thank you so much for saying that. We have a different definition of | 01:41:23 | |
partnership or surprising them, but I think it's important in these contentious situations. | 01:41:28 | |
To reveal bias when it is a legislative body, when we're sitting and writing law, which is code. | 01:41:34 | |
And then this dismissed that bias. | 01:41:39 | |
But it conflicts with principle and I support obvious oil and gas for obvious reasons that is more energy dense than renewables. | 01:41:42 | |
And one Gas is important for the foreseeable future. We can't live without it. And that provides a future that provides prosperity | 01:41:48 | |
for our Weld County citizens. | 01:41:53 | |
The cost of energy. | 01:41:57 | |
And the reliability of energy affects the cost of everything in our lives, from transportation of goods and services to medicines | 01:41:59 | |
and to safety equipment. | 01:42:03 | |
And spending our energy choices isn't accepted and lawful choice under this market, as Commissioner James has said, and we have | 01:42:07 | |
Sevier Energy choice at the state capital. | 01:42:12 | |
And a moratorium, no matter how long we'll make our witness and testimony at that state capital diminished. | 01:42:18 | |
And while no market is completely free of regulations. | 01:42:24 | |
Um. | 01:42:27 | |
Especially for public safety and welfare, we should adhere to the major, major principles of our party, which includes limited | 01:42:28 | |
government, free markets, personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility, and more time on energy development where there's oil | 01:42:32 | |
and gas. | 01:42:37 | |
Or his other energy development that none of those principles instead of message to all industries that if they don't like | 01:42:41 | |
something personally and have it a bias that we act upon that sends a message we may not be business friendly for anyone. | 01:42:47 | |
And won't anyway, is to work with business owners, not surprise them. | 01:42:55 | |
We have the capability of solving these problems without moratorium. Oil and gas moratoriums and other municipalities here in Weld | 01:42:59 | |
County have driven business and development away from those same towns. | 01:43:04 | |
And I am also concerned we are not using code criteria and comments today saying industrial looking or too big which can trigger a | 01:43:09 | |
106 action later and clearly diminish public trust as as this board as being arbitrary and precious and it also object to using a | 01:43:16 | |
definition of emergency which is also arbitrary and capricious. Stay considered, we surprise stakeholders. | 01:43:23 | |
And that these projects are limited by the building and grades of transmission lines in the upcoming years. | 01:43:30 | |
As a matter of protecting agriculture. | 01:43:35 | |
Which is something we all want to do as a matter of private property rights. If we have the right to farm, then it stands. | 01:43:38 | |
So the property owner also has the right not to farm. | 01:43:45 | |
I heard the farmer turned down that they may even have water rights tied to his property. He was told by this board he needs to do | 01:43:49 | |
something else to keep it agricultural. | 01:43:52 | |
If we are inserting ourselves. | 01:43:57 | |
Ladies and gentlemen. | 01:44:00 | |
And forcing people to produce or not produce in a certain way, be it agriculture or energy, we have become the monsters we say we | 01:44:01 | |
are fighting. | 01:44:05 | |
Urgent no vote. | 01:44:11 | |
Well, my only comment is, yeah, I think I've heard several times today, moratorium is just death. | 01:44:15 | |
To an industry and it's I don't think any of us ever want to put death to any industry. | 01:44:22 | |
My feeling is that I'm not sure we. | 01:44:29 | |
I and and I it's just a humble approach of trying to encourage solar and well county and we're doing the best and so we came out | 01:44:34 | |
strong and and wanted to have all energies to rise to the top. I'm not sure that where we are with our planning department where | 01:44:40 | |
we're at prime time. | 01:44:46 | |
And so I'm kind of would like to call it a pause, but that's not what we're addressing today. So I'm conflicted. I'm not. And our | 01:44:53 | |
planning department does an incredible job, no question about it. But. | 01:44:59 | |
We are still so new to this whole solar industry and. | 01:45:06 | |
I. | 01:45:11 | |
I mean, agriculture is everything to Weld County. That's what makes us so unique and and what I'm so proud of. But again. | 01:45:14 | |
These. | 01:45:22 | |
You know there's there's property out there that absolutely is perfect for for solar and I wouldn't want to do anything to to not | 01:45:24 | |
encourage that. So I as much as I. | 01:45:29 | |
And don't like the word moratorium, but I don't know if we can use a pause because I'm just not sure we are completely have done | 01:45:35 | |
all of our due diligence to make sure we are so ready for, you know, so many thousands of acres of solar. | 01:45:43 | |
OK, so and and I completely agree with the rest of you, I hate that. I hate the the, the, the, the idea of a moratorium on | 01:45:53 | |
anything. | 01:45:57 | |
Not if we've got to have a way to be objectively and not just subjective, say it's too big or it's whatever, because there's too | 01:46:31 | |
many houses around. It's a subjective type decision. That's what I think that we've been trying to get to you and and put in the | 01:46:39 | |
code for certain things. We don't have these conversations since the beginning of the year. I think about how do we get some | 01:46:46 | |
things in place that give us some more objectivity on on on compatibility, because you know, there is, there is compatibility. | 01:46:54 | |
Quite honestly, is is extremely subjective. And so that puts us in, it puts us in a bit, puts us in our place. I don't know if I'm | 01:47:02 | |
that confusion, but I'd like to just pause and all of us have a stakeholder meeting and work together so that we can get to the | 01:47:07 | |
spot where we're sitting, these things, where they make sense and we'll count. That's that's my goal. My goal is to not stop large | 01:47:13 | |
facilities. | 01:47:18 | |
That's never been my attempt. I'm not biased against, sorry, I'm I voted for every, every, so, every solar project that's coming | 01:47:23 | |
from us, which has been in the 20s, twenty 5 probably. And there's been two that we've built over that period of time, one about | 01:47:29 | |
2019 and one recently that we thought wasn't compatible because of the surrounding neighborhoods. Other than that, I've supported | 01:47:35 | |
every one of them. We plan to continue to do that, but we've got to be in a place where we can do this, where you have the right | 01:47:41 | |
to do what. | 01:47:47 | |
Tell to do on your own property, but you also do not have the right to impact all the neighbors around it, but nobody really does | 01:47:53 | |
impact them. | 01:47:57 | |
And it doesn't work and it does look industrial. There's no way that you can say that it doesn't look like an industrial site. So | 01:48:02 | |
we just gotta have these things in the right place. I don't know the right answer, guys, on how we, how we pause and we get to | 01:48:07 | |
that spot and loads or more time or whether it's whatever it is. But there's got to be a way that we aren't getting a position | 01:48:13 | |
where we've got applications coming forward in places that don't make sense. | 01:48:19 | |
Jeremy and submits. | 01:48:27 | |
That we remove. | 01:48:29 | |
This moratorium from the agenda and scheduled work session immediately. | 01:48:31 | |
Whether that's today or in the next couple of days or next week, I don't know procedurally if we can remove some. It's already | 01:48:36 | |
been approved. We have to been approved for no vote then, well, you've asked for it. | 01:48:41 | |
So any other comments? There's one other thing. Yes, Emergency ordinance need four of five commissioners to vote for it. | 01:48:48 | |
Mr. Chair, yes, I'm gonna move for denial of the emergency ordinance for reasons previously stated. | 01:49:00 | |
But I am going to direct our planning department. | 01:49:08 | |
This problem has to get solved, and we're looking at a short window, so I mean that same time frame we're talking about. | 01:49:11 | |
Uh. | 01:49:17 | |
Coming to a solution that was asked for through this moratorium request, I think that's what I would direct as far as stakeholder | 01:49:18 | |
meetings and getting the process. | 01:49:24 | |
Continuing to be refined and revised so that we do the large scale solar facilities. | 01:49:30 | |
Properly for Weld County, so I'm going to move for denial, but direct planning to do what was requested through the. | 01:49:36 | |
They did not bear that. | 01:49:45 | |
Process check it. | 01:49:46 | |
It's been moved and seconded to. | 01:49:49 | |
Come. | 01:49:51 | |
Deny the Emergency Code Ordinance 2023 Dash 08. Is there any further discussion Commission? Read the comment and I and I | 01:49:53 | |
understand. I appreciate Bruce's work and I understand. | 01:49:57 | |
The passion that's involved in getting to the objectivity of of compatibility, and that's conversation we need to have. | 01:50:02 | |
I'm going to look at my friend Tom Barco immediately, just as soon as we can. | 01:50:10 | |
But more time and well, county should not collide in the same sense. | 01:50:16 | |
And and I don't, I don't disagree with that and so I will actually be supporting your motion as well. And and with the with the | 01:50:20 | |
understanding that we get on this immediately, we schedule a work session next week and we get and we get stakeholder meetings | 01:50:26 | |
scheduled within the next within the next two weeks and we get something in place so that we've got objectivity that we can put | 01:50:32 | |
into our code within the next 60 days. That's that would be what I would be directing our planning department to to to be able to | 01:50:38 | |
to accomplish. | 01:50:44 | |
I agree with all that's been said. | 01:50:52 | |
OK. Any further discussion? | 01:50:54 | |
OK. With that all in favor, Aye, opposed. | 01:50:56 | |
Motion carries. Thanks. | 01:51:00 | |
Actually. | 01:51:03 | |
Thanks, Bruce. Thank you, Bruce. Good luck, good luck. So we do have one last thing and that is for the agenda this morning that's | 01:51:05 | |
public comment. This would be public comment on anything that is not already previously been on our agenda. So any other public | 01:51:10 | |
comment. | 01:51:16 | |
Can you read address? | 01:51:22 | |
You brought some more back, so I'd like. I've got a couple of things I'd like to say. Go ahead. | 01:51:24 | |
Hello. | 01:51:34 | |
Regarding this regarding solar, yes, OK, real quickly if you don't mind Sir, you do. I need to restate name and address and all | 01:51:38 | |
that. Take Glenn Neal 46508 will convert 184657641018. | 01:51:44 | |
It's in regards to your statement. | 01:51:51 | |
Looking at the company that I'm dealing with and your your concern is with neighbors. If you look at that block of ground. | 01:51:53 | |
It was great to see what their contract says. We talked. | 01:52:02 | |
And we all agree that it fit the area, yeah. | 01:52:05 | |
OK, so. | 01:52:08 | |
And I'm gonna say this, not wanting to offend you. We don't need your input. | 01:52:10 | |
Without the taxes. | 01:52:15 | |
We are students of the ground. I told you that I put my sandwich back in the grass. | 01:52:16 | |
The other one that Mister Gabriel and the other one with that instruct. | 01:52:22 | |
We talked. | 01:52:25 | |
Thought it fit the area. | 01:52:27 | |
So I guess when it comes to that point. | 01:52:29 | |
Be considerate of our. | 01:52:33 | |
You know what we feel. | 01:52:35 | |
Because with the tax increases that we've had. | 01:52:37 | |
For Pete's sake. | 01:52:41 | |
I don't need somebody that's gonna charge me to oversee what I'm doing. I live out there. You don't. | 01:52:43 | |
No, it would fit, yeah. | 01:52:48 | |
Yeah, go ahead. | 01:52:51 | |
I I get what you're saying and and you and your developer have done the responsible thing of reaching out to your neighbors. | 01:52:53 | |
And what you're finding when you're doing that right is you're finding how do we make this project. | 01:53:00 | |
Compatible with our surrounding neighbors, so that. | 01:53:05 | |
They agree, yes, it too should have this use in it, right when we talk about compatibility. | 01:53:08 | |
That's what we're trying to get through and that's that partnership there. | 01:53:13 | |
Now uh. | 01:53:17 | |
We have to make sure it be. I don't know what analogy to use here, right? There's not a perfect analogy, but. | 01:53:19 | |
There is a reason why we have compatibility, right? And it's no different than changing land use for anything else. I mean, if we | 01:53:28 | |
wanted to put up a rock stage, like a rock band playing right next to your house, you may not find that compatible, right? Maybe | 01:53:34 | |
you do, maybe you haven't, you know. Right. I'm deaf, so I wouldn't hear, OK. But. But that's why we have to go through that | 01:53:40 | |
process because that change of land use. | 01:53:46 | |
Isn't a guarantee, right. And that's why we're here. But we do appreciate you and those responsible developers who are here today. | 01:53:52 | |
Right. Right. Are going through that process. OK. That's at least for me. I can't speak on behalf of anybody else. And there were | 01:53:58 | |
other comments that I would mention that's exactly, that's exactly right. And if you know the day, so. | 01:54:04 | |
My concern is that you have our solar facility that comes through. And so everything that needs our code except that you've got 25 | 01:54:12 | |
neighbors that are in here just losing their mind over the fact that that's not a compatible place. And it's subjective to for us | 01:54:17 | |
to say, well, it's not everything in our code except that everybody that surrounds us is not in favor. That's where we struggle | 01:54:23 | |
with compatibility and that's why I made the statement I did. My neighbors are literally powered spray dogs and Addison get it. | 01:54:29 | |
That's why. | 01:54:35 | |
There's nobody else. That's why they should be in those people should be in the everything I forgot when I was up here is for the | 01:54:41 | |
excellent energy line that I believe you're talking about is north and is compatible with most of the companies that are in our | 01:54:46 | |
area a lot along with within 4 miles. And I believe it's the one that comes out of Piney and brushes to the South. They did their | 01:54:52 | |
homework, they really good. | 01:54:57 | |
Did you listen? | 01:55:04 | |
OK. Any other public comment? | 01:55:05 | |
Please be brief because we are way behind. | 01:55:13 | |
Well, we're that. | 01:55:16 | |
OK, Edward Wayne Grant. I'm a local Greeley guy. My father worked for Home right Power Company 2 years before World War 2 and 40 | 01:55:18 | |
years afterwards it became Public Service Company of Colorado, now Excel Energy. I am one of their stockholders. | 01:55:26 | |
OK, I am on. A lot of their engineers over the years, Richard Fairley, Richard Brown, General Hawk, all of these people were were | 01:55:35 | |
managers when they were taking over Excel Energy. Even back then, after my father's been dead for 10 years, they were worried | 01:55:42 | |
about cars like the battery car, the Tesla and all that stuff. If everybody plugged in their car tonight, the whole grid go down. | 01:55:50 | |
Transformers would blow all over town. That was the concern and the tribute they had an article about how much energy we get. | 01:55:57 | |
Cool natural gas, oil and so on. Renewables are very, not very big. Part of that Excel Energy is having I get the bulletins. | 01:56:05 | |
They're having a very hard time getting quotes from Wyoming, buying enough natural gas and all that kind of stuff to do all these | 01:56:11 | |
projects to keep, make sure when you flip the switch, these lights come on. That's the problem. That's going to be a problem. It's | 01:56:17 | |
going to get worse and worse and worse. Thank you. Thank you. | 01:56:22 | |
Mr. Chairman, I know you're behind. | 01:56:30 | |
I applaud you for taking the approach that you've taken. | 01:56:33 | |
I think it sends the right message. | 01:56:37 | |
Whether it's legacy development? | 01:56:39 | |
For the new renewable. | 01:56:42 | |
So thank you for the approach that you thank. Thank you, Steve. Thank you Proactive. | 01:56:45 | |
We support business. | 01:56:52 | |
Attitude that resonates in this community and in this county will continue to do so because of the show. Thank you. Thank you, | 01:56:54 | |
thank you. Mr. Teeks, quickly, please. | 01:57:00 | |
I'm just doing 3 out of four then. | 01:57:07 | |
For the record, my name is Steve Cheeseman Greeley Number one is Life Care. Nursing Home is having to sell 25th. | 01:57:15 | |
Yeah, celebration. | 01:57:24 | |
Next Thursday from 2:00 to 6:00. So anybody? I'm sure they love to have some more people attend. | 01:57:27 | |
So that's the positive news I got. | 01:57:37 | |
OK I got in the mail is this. | 01:57:41 | |
Proposition H My notice in your agenda last week you talked about this. Unfortunately I wasn't here, but. | 01:57:46 | |
He says it's unconstitutional and must take the way the tax refund check and all that other stuff. And one other thing on this, it | 01:57:58 | |
says that there's some counties joining the lawsuit now. Since we're going to either say nay or yay for this, I don't think we | 01:58:06 | |
need to see in a teleport. Counties are something I would recommend before you think of getting on the line. Let's wait until | 01:58:13 | |
voters decide before we do that. | 01:58:21 | |
And my third thing is. | 01:58:29 | |
Since Commissioner James is a nice guy, I'm going to ask him a question. Always me tease me. | 01:58:32 | |
I wasn't able to make the NCO because of the rain and all that and I didn't want to get stuck and had to walk on the other side of | 01:58:39 | |
green. Could you give a general synopsis of that meeting, Sir? Sure. I just a bit of our conversation. We've heard reports about | 01:58:45 | |
the Front Range passenger rail a little bit. We heard a report from the deputy director of the Colorado Department of | 01:58:51 | |
Transportation Hermit Stocking or was there Herman spoke to us about the process that we're going through with the amendments that | 01:58:57 | |
was on. | 01:59:03 | |
Nashville 1101 this year that basically deals with instructing the transportation Commission to look at the boundary lines of | 01:59:09 | |
transportation planning regions. So we talked about the the, the process it's going to be instituted there, but also talked about | 01:59:14 | |
our our plan. | 01:59:20 | |
To have 10 year plan anymore, but it's it's kind of the 2050 vision per se and the projects that were put on that. | 01:59:27 | |
I am excited to see a lot of the focus going to 234 and and yes there continues to be a conversation about transit that about how | 01:59:33 | |
that will interact with with the 34 as we move forward on that I'm sorry, go move the question, I was at the City Council meeting | 01:59:39 | |
agreement last night and. | 01:59:46 | |
Councilman Olson said something about a that the state was having people at different different cities and all that and the public | 01:59:53 | |
meeting. | 02:00:00 | |
That he said something about trying to get them to come up here. Do you know anything about that? Yeah, yeah, it is. And I. | 02:00:08 | |
Is Elizabeth here can iPhone a friend It is has to do with the a transit outreach that they're doing and and Councillor Olson | 02:00:17 | |
along with Commissioner James referred to myself in the third person are big advocates in trying to get to that organization to | 02:00:23 | |
come up here and hear from greatly with transit in inputs and so that's that's our goal is to get one of those meetings out of the | 02:00:29 | |
metro area and and into other colors. I agree with that. | 02:00:35 | |
If you so choose please. Thank you. I just want to make one comment, let me initiate. So we are not going to join the lawsuit, but | 02:00:43 | |
we did pass the proposition, proposition in opposition to HR. So you're aware we're. | 02:00:49 | |
To that proposition that we are supporting the lawsuit now its tenants because I was told it's too late to join as a plaintiff on | 02:00:57 | |
that lawsuit, although I hope we can in the future. | 02:01:01 | |
And then just another question. I'm sorry, Sir, is that? | 02:01:07 | |
It it says how is it unconstitutional and this is what I guess my last question is I can respond to that courts determine whether | 02:01:15 | |
that's something is unconstitutional that board county commissioners. So I just. | 02:01:22 | |
The subject that's their argument that makes it unconstitutional. It's it's self-evident. It's unconstitutional because we have | 02:01:30 | |
several things including Tabor in our Constitution ***** and read for themselves. That's why constitution is written the way they | 02:01:36 | |
are, including the violation of single subject rule. That particular bill that passed the last minute had four subjects in there. | 02:01:41 | |
Plus the title is very deceptive. | 02:01:46 | |
And we should not be deceiving the taxpayers that would have been not accepted at the title board. But the since the state | 02:01:52 | |
legislature has the majority on both sides, they get to determine what's deceptive or not. | 02:01:58 | |
OK. Thank you. OK. | 02:02:05 | |
Anything else? OK, seeing no further business. We are adjourned. We're going to take 5 minutes and then we do have A and then we | 02:02:07 | |
do have a show cause hearing and I believe we've got a couple of landing places. | 02:02:12 | |
So can we take? | 02:02:17 |